Tournament rules ethics, quick question

[tony3]

Amen.

[Tyger]

Tyger
if your inferring about skyball rules; I think they are a little confused

Well, I was speaking in generalities, but that will work. As far as I know, PPIG will not be attending Skyball 2005, so it is not an issue.

What I was looking for here was basically a litmus test. No judgment, I just want to see where the waters were drifting, if you will. If the rules didn't say specifically "no full auto, ramping or bounce trigger paintguns", I was curious how many people would indeed look into that as a possibility to play with.

There are other rulebooks that don't specify what kinds of guns you can or can not take with you to play. And after this seasons collective griping about ramping and debounce, I find it interesting that all the promises that "next year will be different" are just that, promises. Perhaps people wanted to use their "factory ramping" guns to play tournaments, and the tournaments yielded.

-Tyger

[xXHavokXx]

If there was no speed limits on the free way would you still drive 55?

[brightman]

nope, I dont drive the speed limit now. But if I get caught I get to pay whatever county/city/state $150 for their troubles. If rules are set there also has to be real punishments to enforce them and a professional/highly skilled person to enforce them. Otherwise they are just words on a piece of paper.

[Echo-Newb]

Tyger,

People aren't going to follow the spirit of the rules if there isn't anything being written down about it. You have to think of it this way, people will get around it if they can. If they can find a way to get around it they will do it. It's just how some people are.

Now I'm not saying that all people will do this. But it's just how some people are. Plus, if you were getting in there and you asked the juges and stuff about it they'd have to tell you. But then again, it'd be their fault for not even putting it into the rules. So hey, that's how it is right?

-Echo

[Lohman446]

Well, I was speaking in generalities, but that will work. As far as I know, PPIG will not be attending Skyball 2005, so it is not an issue.

What I was looking for here was basically a litmus test. No judgment, I just want to see where the waters were drifting, if you will. If the rules didn't say specifically "no full auto, ramping or bounce trigger paintguns", I was curious how many people would indeed look into that as a possibility to play with.

There are other rulebooks that don't specify what kinds of guns you can or can not take with you to play. And after this seasons collective griping about ramping and debounce, I find it interesting that all the promises that "next year will be different" are just that, promises. Perhaps people wanted to use their "factory ramping" guns to play tournaments, and the tournaments yielded.

-Tyger

I use my rebound Shockers in rebound mode in about 50% of the tournaments I play at, perhaps just a touch more. This is always (when done) with the express permission of the tournament promotor or head ref., now thats not to say that I tell everyone I play with but I don't hide the fact either.

[rabidchihauhau]

In all of the rule booklets I have written for paintball (5, 6 or so) only the first one did not have a rule to the following effect:

"Situations not specifically covered in the rules or of a questionable nature are NOT allowed; if equipment usage is questionable, it is NOT allowed UNLESS specific permission is granted by the (Ultimate/Rules Committee/Promoter)."

In other words, if its not expressly allowed by the rules, it is forbidden, pending review by the rules-makers.

It was during the first event using my first rule book that I learned to stick the above in to the rest of them.