Kinda off topic but how good is Nitroduck compared to Crossfire/Centerflag...
Dye Throttle v Crossfire/Centerflag
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ducks are also a tad bigger (actually just longer) than centerflags.Originally posted by RiftNitroduck systesm are awsome and just as good as the crossfire and centerflags the only thing you might notice is a litle bit of a weight difference because of the tuffskin the nitroducks use.Comment
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Uh...the Throttles have the BEST reg on the market. They're fast AND consistent.
I think that most people are afraid of the Throttles because they are new, and challenging the old guard of HPA. Truth is, they blow Centerflag AND Crossfire out of the water.
"Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." --Henry Louis Mencken.Comment
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Dye Throttles are the best reg on the market, bar none.
You know how Matrixes are gas hogs?
We put a Throttle on one in the shop and ripped a 30sec string of FA (Trigger job, ahoy!) And while the reg FROSTED OVER it was dumping so much air through it, there was absolutely no drop off, no sputtering... That's the best setup we have in the shop, period. Target Practice here on AO did the trigger job, and can verify that it is indeed FA.
We've also put a Throttle on a mag and had no issues. Maybe your tank was a fluke, the output pressure on presets can vary from the factory-- Crossfire tanks have been known to be as low as 700 and as high as 1100. Straight from the Nerobro's mouth.Such a sham(e).Comment
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well my friend kept having those problems, and I disctinctly remember someone on here mentioning the fact that they had to return their throttle because it only output 650. So i checked on Dye's website, it said it should be outputting 800 or so. Well we hooked it to a guage and it read 650. I put his tank on my gun and 3 other mags and they all chuffed more often and bolt sticked past about 5 bps or so.
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So, like I said, the output pressure can vary from the factory? I don't think that's in question here. Why would Dye say the tanks are supposed to output 800 if they manufacture them to output 650? The tank(s) in question were flukes. It happens.Such a sham(e).Comment
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What was your guage setup?Originally posted by nt2004well my friend kept having those problems, and I disctinctly remember someone on here mentioning the fact that they had to return their throttle because it only output 650. So i checked on Dye's website, it said it should be outputting 800 or so. Well we hooked it to a guage and it read 650. I put his tank on my gun and 3 other mags and they all chuffed more often and bolt sticked past about 5 bps or so.
"Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." --Henry Louis Mencken.Comment
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Pate,Originally posted by PateOK cool, thanks for the replies.
I will be going with the crossfire 68/45 cause its just under 200.
Also, anyone have experience with loksoks??
I have 2 sets of Loksoks, They are decent & serve their purpose, but I don't use them anymore... Go out and get a Dye Rhino cover or similar Cover-All Tank cover... For the around the same cost you get a lot better tank protection...
It is by far the better choice unless you have a 114ci tank ( that the Rhino's won't fit ), a Nitro Duck with Tuff Skin ( And the Rhino is still a better choice ), or just want the to add the extra color to your gun by sacraficing tank protection...
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I learned the hard way on this one. Although my throttle had an output of ~800psi it's recharge was still inadequate to keep up with my emag. Anybody want to buy a throttleOriginally posted by nt2004DO NOT BUY A THROTTLE IF YOU OWN AN AUTOMAG!!!!
You have been warned. They output 650 and it starves the gun. My friend bought one and he kept having all these unexplained problems with his mag like bolt stick and random chuffing. Well someone on here mentioned their throttle not outputting enough so we hooked it to a guage and it read 650. But if you dont own a mag you should be ok. I reccomend the crossfire though
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we used a shocktech mini guage on a gas thru running to his gun. Even if the guage wasnt accurate, it still wouldnt allow the guns to fire without countless problemsOriginally posted by Target PracticeWhat was your guage setup?
oh sorry if the reply confuses you, i was there when they tested the tankComment
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Originally posted by Target PracticeUh...the Throttles have the BEST reg on the market. They're fast AND consistent.
I think that most people are afraid of the Throttles because they are new, and challenging the old guard of HPA. Truth is, they blow Centerflag AND Crossfire out of the water.
I'd like to see the recharge graphs that Dye uses for this claim. Everything I've ever read puts Centerflag and Crossfire at the top.
Just because it's "Dye" doesn't make it crap (as some people think) but neither does it make it the best.
I'd love to see a pre-set test like the one HaveBlue did for in-lines at Air Soldier."Relax. Don't worry. Have a Home Brew."
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Not to be a stiffly stifferson about it, but the Throttles are output 750, not 650. Thats what it says on the box mine came in, and thats what my friends at the local shop have confirmed.Originally posted by nt2004DO NOT BUY A THROTTLE IF YOU OWN AN AUTOMAG!!!!
You have been warned. They output 650 and it starves the gun. My friend bought one and he kept having all these unexplained problems with his mag like bolt stick and random chuffing. Well someone on here mentioned their throttle not outputting enough so we hooked it to a guage and it read 650. But if you dont own a mag you should be ok. I reccomend the crossfire though
Personally, I've yet to have a problem with my tank, and I've been using it on my mag for a good year and then some. It all depends on your setup I guess.
That said, there is no real reason to get it over any other tank. The only thing the throttle has going for it is the black reg, versus a steel silver one on any other tanks. I suppose it would be a tad lighter, but I never noticed. Anyway, save the cash and get a crossfire. Those are great tanks as well.Tacofest '04Comment


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