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  • magman007
    I <3 my Penis
    • Jun 2001
    • 7579

    #16
    i think this is more or less related to the new dye c5 jerseys, which personally i think are hot. it appears to be using "dazzle" material, like on gymshorts, or many pro jerseys in other sports. not only do i like the look, and the feel of the material, but the added idea that it is easy to wipe/have paint graze off of it, is interesting. i never thought of this until elpimpo posted it. now i for one do not wipe, nor will i ever wipe a hit, and i dont plan to either. not to mention i dont slide hits off etc etc. i just think the jerseys look pimp



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    • 68magOwner
      Registered User
      • May 2003
      • 3475

      #17
      as honorable as it would be to say B, i would take A, definately, if the products are the same price, and one will give you and edge (no i wouldnt wipe, but, if the hit just flew off...) then I would take the one that gave me the edge

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      • Enemy
        aKa PROZAC
        • Aug 2003
        • 1245

        #18
        im going to take jersey A, ofcoarse this would be a tourny only jersey as i dont believe in having every edge when im playing recball!
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        • White_Noise
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          • Jul 2003
          • 1295

          #19
          jersey A, if theyre the same price, and A is better...why wouldnt you get it?
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          • Tyger
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            • Oct 2002
            • 1210

            #20
            Originally posted by wes
            its a RHETORICAL question
            I was wondering when someone would bring that up.

            It just struck me as one of those things that I'd like to know, but I don't want to have my suspisions confirmed kind of things? Hense why it's rhetorical.

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            • Blazestorm
              I win
              • Feb 2002
              • 3523

              #21
              Jersey A, it would give me an advantage yet is still legal, if I can get shot and it won't count (Similar to a bounce) It's something I'll take to advantage.

              But that would quickly be outlawed by most if not all tournaments.

              I'm not saying I'd use Jersey A because it would let me cheat, I'd use it because it would give me an advantage.

              It's like using an electro marker over a pump, they'll have nearly the same consistency, efficiency, accuracy, but ROF is where they differ, The Electro allows me to keep opponents inside their bunkers and shoot them quicker off the break, pump does not let me do that.

              If Jersey A would make certain hits disappear (The paint slides right off, even without wiping it) that's an advantage over Jersey B.

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              • nippinout
                FUSP
                • Jan 2002
                • 1231

                #22
                I would be against the teflon jersey.

                It's basically a passive wipe. Say you get a hit square on the chest, but the paint just drips off like nothing happened. Solid and clean hit, but it magically disappears.

                You can't fairly compare the advantage of the jersey to the example give by Blazestorm, where he compares ROF of electro and pump. The object of the game isn't to shoot insanely fast. The object of the game is to eliminate. The fast electro helps you get the job done. The teflon jersey just makes the job for the ref a lot harder. It may not be in the scope of the rules, but you went out of your way to buy a jersey where paint can't stick to it.

                If you get hit off the break, you can do a Superman to try to rub the hit off. You didn't use your hands, but its still wiping. Using the teflon jersey isn't the same technique, but the purpose is the same.
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                • Lohman446
                  Useful posts: 7
                  • Jun 2003
                  • 9315

                  #23
                  Option A - just to annoy 50% of AO? Ok, just to show off to my team? Ok... I'm sure I have a reason that is not egotistical in nature... give me a minute... I'll think of one... ahh screw it I'm a jerk
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                  • SteelSoul
                    Registered User
                    • Jun 2003
                    • 315

                    #24
                    B
                    Dont wipe, and I dont need a special jersey to wipe for me.
                    Yall are looking for an advantage, how about u learn to play better so you dont have to count on a jersey to cheat for you
                    And if you do get hit just have the honor to rasie you hand, walk of the field and play harder next round so you dont get shot.
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                    • teufelhunden
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                      • Jul 2003
                      • 2691

                      #25
                      The only way you're never going to get hit is by staying behind the net, not by "getting better." Some of us already don't suck and have learned to take every advantage we can get with our equipment.. the same way you wear lighter pads in football, better sneakers in basketball, and keep your skates as sharp as they can be in football.
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                      • Bear_Claw
                        Grease Monkey
                        • Dec 2004
                        • 399

                        #26
                        Maybe im a sucker for honesty but i to would opt for the T-Shirt i wear now lol. Or the Jersy b if i had to pick.

                        I am also not a big beliver in refs HAVEING to do paint check if your hit you know it . Mayb thats my woodsball roots talking but thats just the way i think. I miss the days of guys walking off the feild after getting hit and the paint did not break. the simple fact that you were hit ment you were out. I still instictively walk off befor cheking if the paint broke its just the way i learned the game. I admit i DONT play ALOT of speedballl andam just getting into it and enjoying it but am very turned off by the dishonesty factor of the game. Dont get me wrong there is PLENTY of dishonesty in woodsball but it just seems more soo on this side of the fence.

                        Boy tyger you shure make some good though provoking threads lol.
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                        • minimag03
                          WVU paintball #19
                          • Dec 2003
                          • 2214

                          #27
                          B- I don't need help wipping, I'm already really good at it....j/k

                          I'd probley take A. It is the same price, and offers more bounces. This is like asking why we wear baggy cloths compared to regular stuff.

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                          • Blazestorm
                            I win
                            • Feb 2002
                            • 3523

                            #28
                            BTW If you play on a decent field with refs watching every player, they would catch you getting shot, and pull you even without any paint on you.

                            I'm not for cheating, but I'm sure as hell going to do anything to give myself an advantage. It's like baggy clothing or pads, I don't do a lot of sliding, but I still wear elbow and knee pads for the sole purpose of bounces. I wear baggy clothing for bounces, I wear a profiler because they're comfy and I've seen people get shot square in the nose, and it caught the ball. I wear a jersey that is baggy... For bounces.

                            Now if you're going to call me a cheater because I'm looking for an advantage... if I get shot, I don't check myself to see if it broke, the ref sees no paint, I'm still in. Same thing as if it's a bounce. Nobody has anything against padded headgear or baggy clothing.

                            You post this on PBN, 9/10 people would choose Jersey A, and about 100-200 people would reply, not 30 people who play paintball every 2 weeks or once a month which is typical of AO, (Some don't even play anymore). Whereas PBN has people who play 2 times a week (I try to) and play competitive tournament ball.

                            And about the pump-electro comparison, the point is to elimination but also not get eliminated because that conflicts with the first purpose. The electro is giving me an advantage of not getting eliminated, if I can shoot them out faster, lowering the chance of me getting eliminated.

                            Who the hell WOULDN'T increase their chances of living, even if it is in the grey area, I play paintball to win, if there's a grey area, I'm going to walk it.
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                            • Bear_Claw
                              Grease Monkey
                              • Dec 2004
                              • 399

                              #29
                              ^^^HMMM and here i though we all played paintball for FUN.

                              I am not out there to WIN im ou to have fun get my blood pumping and enjoy the GAME. There really is no GREY area in my books your hit you walk out PERIOD.

                              But as i said this is my belefie and Obviously not a wide spread one.
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                              • Gabriel
                                jh151399 @ the nation
                                • Dec 2003
                                • 387

                                #30
                                Originally posted by nippinout
                                Say you get a hit square on the chest, but the paint just drips off like nothing happened. Solid and clean hit, but it magically disappears.

                                It may not be in the scope of the rules, but you went out of your way to buy a jersey where paint can't stick to it.
                                If you get hit square in the chest, it wont just drip off. The point was made for those angle shots where it barely breaks on your shoulder or arm. And you wouldnt be going out of your way to buy it if they are priced the same and sold at the same place.
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