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  • Automaggot68

    #16
    Originally posted by JKR
    Thanks anyway Enemy. I don't really want a rental valve as I understand that getting it beyond 275-280 fps isn't possible.


    Uhm.
    A Rental valve is simply a Classic valve with 'Field Rental', or 'Rental' Etched into the Body of the Valve. I have a mag with a rental valve, and it has NO trouble hitting 300fps, and over.
    I dont play with tat Velocity, but for the point of fact, It has no trouble doing so.

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    • Beemer
      I could tell you but then.

      • Oct 2003
      • 3250

      #17
      Would I be satisfied with the performance of a Classic 'Mag with the above circumstances at a max 3-4 bps fire rate?
      YES, at that rate you will be fine. Us old S.O.B.s[tourny team] were shooting classics faster then that with co2, set up like you said.

      see Rogue or Tuna for a good deal
      Last edited by Beemer; 01-23-2005, 01:24 PM. Reason: sp

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      • JKR
        Stainless Steel 'Mag Lover
        • Sep 2003
        • 392

        #18
        Originally posted by Automaggot68
        Uhm.
        A Rental valve is simply a Classic valve with 'Field Rental', or 'Rental' Etched into the Body of the Valve. I have a mag with a rental valve, and it has NO trouble hitting 300fps, and over.
        I dont play with tat Velocity, but for the point of fact, It has no trouble doing so.
        I didn't know that. I did some searches here at AO on rental valves and thought from what I read that the velocity was capped. My bad...

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        • Automaggot68

          #19
          Originally posted by JKR
          I didn't know that. I did some searches here at AO on rental valves and thought from what I read that the velocity was capped. My bad...
          No Worries Chief!

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          • Beemer
            I could tell you but then.

            • Oct 2003
            • 3250

            #20
            Originally posted by Automaggot68
            Uhm.
            A Rental valve is simply a Classic valve with 'Field Rental', or 'Rental' Etched into the Body of the Valve. I have a mag with a rental valve, and it has NO trouble hitting 300fps, and over.
            I dont play with tat Velocity, but for the point of fact, It has no trouble doing so.
            Not true.


            Originally posted by Dayspring
            Classic Rental valves can't take the Level 10 without modification. A flow restrictor is in place to make sure the gun doesn't shoot overly hot. You'd need a qualified machinist to drill it out.
            This is the forum for trouble shooting your Airgun Designs products, including the Automag, RT, E-Mag, and WarpFeed. Also a great place to ask technical questions about non AGD products. An Airsmith's homeroom!

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            • Automaggot68

              #21
              When I get home, I can get you pictures of my Rental Valve, if you want proof.
              I'll crack it open, and even compare it to another classic valve that I own. It's identical.
              The Valve is a Classic Valve,with the logo buffed off (there are still traces of it) and 'RENTAL' stamped on it.

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              • magsRus
                Lost Boys
                • Jul 2001
                • 1706

                #22
                To answer your first question...


                Expanison Chamber - Anti-Syphon - Remote Line


                If you have all three of those you will NEVER get liquid in your gun. But you will be fine with just an expansion chamber and an anti-syphon
                "You dont need to be so shallow, turn your head prepare to follow"-CKY

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                • Automaggot68

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Beemer
                  Can ya put a lvl 10 on it?
                  To be honest, yes. It's on there.
                  After i bought a Reloader B, I ditched the Lvl X on my Xvalve, and replaced the parts on the Rental Valve. Does it work? I have no idea if it does, i dont use that valve anymore.

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                  • electriceel125
                    Golden Gun 009
                    • Nov 2003
                    • 875

                    #24
                    Originally posted by magsRus
                    To answer your first question...


                    Expanison Chamber - Anti-Syphon - Remote Line


                    If you have all three of those you will NEVER get liquid in your gun. But you will be fine with just an expansion chamber and an anti-syphon

                    NEVER antisiphon a tank on a remote. The tube will siphon the liquid out of the bottom of the tank. Only use an antisiphon OR a remote tank. One of those used with the x chamber should do the job. And palmer blazer are wonderful on C02, and im sure all of their pumps are the same high quality. (wanna buy a blazer pm me )

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                    • Enemy
                      aKa PROZAC
                      • Aug 2003
                      • 1245

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Beemer
                      Can ya put a lvl 10 on it?
                      we tried on the rental vavle it woulnt work! i even tried putting the back half of my real classic to test to see if it was the reg piston but that did nothing either!!
                      VV04962 yeah thats my Pewter CnC X-mag

                      Looking for a milled 04 featherlight viking!!!

                      my feedback!!!http://www.automags.org/forums/showt...84#post1584884

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                      • JKR
                        Stainless Steel 'Mag Lover
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 392

                        #26
                        I just won an auction on eBay for a nice PF left 'Mag. Time will tell if I made the right decision but I did get a chance to shoot another PF left 'Mag the other day on CO2 and an expansion chamber. It shot very well and I was impressed.

                        So starts my journey as an Automag owner.

                        Justin

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                        • Smileatom88
                          Okipaintball Staff Member
                          • Mar 2004
                          • 253

                          #27
                          Congratulations. Welcome to the wonderful world of Automags.


                          Feedback

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                          • JKR
                            Stainless Steel 'Mag Lover
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 392

                            #28
                            Thanks! I have received the 'Mag and although I haven't played a game yet, it seems like a very well-made and accurate 'gun. Some Marbs now reside against the side of a tree in my backyard and I am looking forward to sending more there soon.

                            It is a Classic valve with serial number CF52608. Does anyone have any idea the age of my 'gun? It is in very good shape (seems almost new) so I am guessing it isn't too old. How many shots can I expect before the sear or bolt needs to be replaced?

                            Thanks for the welcome! I believe I am going to enjoy being a part of the Brotherhood of the Automag.

                            Justin

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                            • mark_1791
                              Yeah...what he said.
                              • Jan 2005
                              • 363

                              #29
                              good choice!

                              About the lvl x debate, if youre going to be shooting at 3-4 bps, all you need to not break a ball is a ricochet AK, not a lvl 10. i mean, come on, the classic valve's top bps capability is like 10, right? so why would you need lvl 10 if you could just get a loader for cheaper that can outfeed the gun?
                              Automag RT Pro
                              ULE Body
                              RT Valve w/ LvL 10
                              AM/MM Rail
                              Intelliframe
                              Custom Products Matrix barrel
                              CP small drop
                              Black

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                              • SAW
                                It's a trap!
                                • Nov 2004
                                • 846

                                #30
                                Loaders are not the only reason for breaks. Level 10 is great when using more brittle paint, less of a mess.
                                Back at this...

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