A possible solution the HES / 4.X problem?

[Vanced]

[jekyll]

i believe raceframes already use break beams. I would assume that other companies don't use it because of patent reasons.

[teufelhunden]

Raceframes use a trigger switch.

Optical triggers have already been used in paintball... just not with Airgun..

[xXHavokXx]

Eblades use optical triggers as well as Newer Angels.

[yakitori]

yup. OPTO trigger is like that.

[Vanced]

[Muzikman]

Vanced: Can you show me a site with one of these break beam components? I have seen the typical break beam for ball detection, I have seen break beam used in industral applications/ but I am not sure I have seen a system small enough to be used as a trigger sensing unit.

I think the easiest solution is to replace the HES with a normal switch that can be fitted in where the HES is with minimal milling.

[Miscue]

Yes, this will absolutely solve it. Any non-magnetic switch will. One of the places I was thinking of for an optic switch, is below the trigger return magnets. Instead of detecting the rear of the trigger, it would be on top of it.

I "think" I solved the HES issue with 4.20. Dayspring's marker, I classify as hosed - there's something wrong with it I believe. A solution to the HES problem doesn't put 4.x any closer to release though - there's other issues.

TK did not want to pursue 4.x - I don't know about Zupe. And quite frankly, I don't really care anymore. I have my software, to heck with the rest of you!

[FallNAngel]

I "think" I solved the HES issue with 4.20. Dayspring's marker, I classify as hosed - there's something wrong with it I believe. A solution to the HES problem doesn't put 4.x any closer to release though - there's other issues.

TK did not want to pursue 4.x - I don't know about Zupe. And quite frankly, I don't really care anymore. I have my software, to heck with the rest of you!

What other issues?

Either way, send me the code, I'd love to take a look at it

[Miscue]

What other issues?

Either way, send me the code, I'd love to take a look at it

[thecavemankevin]

TK did not want to pursue 4.x - I don't know about Zupe. And quite frankly, I don't really care anymore. I have my software, to heck with the rest of you!

thats not nice

meh, i'm done with mags for right now anyways. for me, in their current form they have become just another rec marker.

[FallNAngel]

Well, you can't blame a guy for trying to help out an otherwise dead project.

[Muzikman]

Go ask Microsoft for the code to DOS, see what kind of response you get.

[Vanced]

Yes, this will absolutely solve it. Any non-magnetic switch will. One of the places I was thinking of for an optic switch, is below the trigger return magnets. Instead of detecting the rear of the trigger, it would be on top of it.

I "think" I solved the HES issue with 4.20. Dayspring's marker, I classify as hosed - there's something wrong with it I believe. A solution to the HES problem doesn't put 4.x any closer to release though - there's other issues.

TK did not want to pursue 4.x - I don't know about Zupe. And quite frankly, I don't really care anymore. I have my software, to heck with the rest of you!

Ok...

That answers at least #1 of my list of questions .. and I was pretty sure I wasn't the first person this solution dawn'd on... But at least it "IS" a solution... and YES, I know it doesn't mean 4.X will ever be released.... And I know Miscue spoke of "other" issues why it won't be released... OK .. we all know... Fiscal & Liability are included there...And I am not the powers that be that are able to address thoose issues... but I would like to at least find a solution that will totally remove ANY of the lingering safety issues raised by the Hall sensor and magnetic issues... So it can hopefully be finally and offically said that the fiscal and liability are the ONLY issues preventing from us for taking one step to closer to the full potential in the current E/X-Mag...

And Yes we know Miscue has "his" software... He did by all rights write the damn stuff... and we continue to be jealous of him... and he continues to flaunt that fact ... Meany !

And yes I am a little bitter ...

Because the solution does exist... be it simply the 4.2 software... or changes to the gun itself...

Muzikman: At work we typically use Keyence sensors, vision, and measurement equipment but we have a few other brands but I cann't off the top of my head remember their web page... www.keyence.com ... Their Fiber Optic sensors are easily avaiable in small enough sizes to be packed inside a grip frame or possibly even a Proximity sensor would do the trick...

The difficult part as I am sure you can guess is where to put the contorl / amplifier / display module ... I was thinking it could be simply plugged into the existing hall sensor jack and reuse and reprogram the inplace circuitry and LCD to replace the control / amplifer/ display...

I am tottally guessing the massive battery (compared to other paintball batterys ) would be enough to run it without much problem...

[phantomhitman]

eblades have exactly what you are looking for, just like havok said. it is quite small and compact also. i do not know how you would strip it out and use it for emags though......