A possible solution the HES / 4.X problem?

[Vanced]

Good question. I've also used other boards without issue as well.

You know that story, Software guy blames the hardware and the hardware guy blames the software. Usually ends up being somewhere in the middle.

Yeah always a lot of finger pointing that goes on...

And I'll be the first to admit I am much more Mechanically compitent than Electronically but possibly somthing about the board/chip makes it more or less subject to the magnetic interferance ?

[hitech]

...Software guy blames the hardware and the hardware guy blames the software. Usually ends up being somewhere in the middle.

No, no, no, no... it's always the hardware!

Seriously, in this case the hardware guy (Tom) said it was basically the hardware. But it depends on how you look at it. It wasn't a problem until shot buffering was introduced. Without shot buffering the interference from the solenoid was ignored. Once the solenoid was off, the interference was eliminated. In some cases (not all, by current emag has 4.1 and has NO issue) the hardware was not up to the demands of the software.

No one has a schematic for the eMag?

[RRfireblade]

No, no, no, no... it's always the hardware!

Seriously, in this case the hardware guy (Tom) said it was basically the hardware. But it depends on how you look at it. It wasn't a problem until shot buffering was introduced. Without shot buffering the interference from the solenoid was ignored. Once the solenoid was off, the interference was eliminated. In some cases (not all, by current emag has 4.1 and has NO issue) the hardware was not up to the demands of the software.

No one has a schematic for the eMag?

Which 'could' be corrected by software ,IMO. The hardware is only capable of 22-23BPS so don't allow the software to look for or try for 50.

[hitech]

Which 'could' be corrected by software ,IMO. The hardware is only capable of 22-23BPS so don't allow the software to look for or try for 50.

But, but, but....

The hardware can typically be corrected. Then you don't have the limitations. Howerver, I believe Miscue has software that handles most of the existing hardware. "We" just aren't going to see it.

[RRfireblade]

I see...you must be a software guy.

[hitech]

I see...you must be a software guy.

Guilty as charged!

[Miscue]

Which 'could' be corrected by software ,IMO. The hardware is only capable of 22-23BPS so don't allow the software to look for or try for 50.

4.20

[SCpoloRicker]

4.20

I want one!!

[Miscue]

I want one!!

I think the best option right now, is a Predator II board... if I'm not mistaken. I only bother continuing to mention 4.x so that someone else can know - "It can be done," and will develop something independently.

[Vanced]

I think the best option right now, is a Predator II board... if I'm not mistaken. I only bother continuing to mention 4.x so that someone else can know - "It can be done," and will develop something independently.

Or it's just your little racket to continue to market and hype ... until you finally let it go for major $$$ a pop and make more profit off of it than was made off the X-mags inital release...

Or so we can hope ?

Funny got another thread going on about morals and speed vs money arguement and here in this one were begging to pay someone that wont give up something with no further *imediate development or production* cost to them for pure profit ? What a strange strange world...

[RRfireblade]

4.20

See I knew it was easy. What took so long.

[Miscue]

Or it's just your little racket to continue to market and hype ... until you finally let it go for major $$$ a pop make and more profit is made off of it than was off the X-mags...

Or so we can hope ?

Funny got another thread going on about morals and speed vs money arguement and here in this one were begging to pay someone that wont give up something with no further *imediate development or production* cost to them for pure profit ? What a strange strange world...

Nope. I was not interested in making money on it - and never will be. I'm not keen on releasing something that goes on a device that shoots at people - on my own. The thought of that, scares me crapless... really. Hence, the AGD version number instead of Q2.0 - and why you can't send it to me and ask for me to flash it for any amount of money. It's not mine to give. The only time it's ever been given out is with AGDs knowledge/approval.

However, that will not keep me from helping someone else to create one - as a replacement. I have some insights on how to make it safe and how to address certain problems - and that's always been a standing offer. I hope somebody releases something for you guys eventually - something that will be at least as safe as mine.

I'm just surprised we haven't seen an alternative yet. First one to get to it could probably sell it for $50 a pop.

I figure it's only a matter of time before somebody does. What I worry is, it will not be as safe as mine. And if someone gets hurt, the lawyers still go after AGD - because it is their gun. A demand has been created - question is who has control over the software. The lack of 4.x being available... fuels the incentive to create dangerous software because there isn't an alternative.

I have considered releasing a software kit, to make it super easy to make your own software... under GNU license. But after further thought, I decided it wasn't worthwhile. And I wouldn't want to give birth to a new world of cheating. I know that's what you guys would do with it.

[Vanced]

Nope. I was not interested in making money on it - and never will be. I'm not keen on releasing something that goes on a device that shoots at people - on my own. Hence, the AGD version number instead of Q2.0 - and why you can't send it to me and ask for me to flash it for any amount of money. It's not mine to give. The only time it's ever been given out is with AGDs knowledge/approval.

However, that will not keep me from helping someone else to create one - as a replacement. I have some insights on how to make it safe and how to address certain problems - and that's always been a standing offer. I hope somebody releases something for you guys eventually - something that will be at least as safe as mine.

I'm just surprised we haven't seen an alternative yet. First one to get to it could probably sell it for $50 a pop.

I figure it's only a matter of time before somebody does. What I worry is, it will not be as safe as mine. And if someone gets hurt, the lawyers still go after AGD - because it is their gun. A demand has been created - question is who has control over the software. The lack of 4.x being available... fuels the incentive to create dangerous software because there isn't an alternative.

My quote was directed at you Brian, I more than understand your place in the matter...and I agree with where you are comming from...I highly doubt I would risk my rear end either... but for someone who already has there neck out there....

It was just more of a general statement... And your right I am surprised too and that was more my point... that someone hasn't taken this little project on given that a proven or at least a very nearly proven solution is sitting for someone to take it and run with it... and I think the $50.00 a pop price point might even be low for some...

[RRfireblade]

However, that will not keep me from helping someone else to create one - as a replacement. I have some insights on how to make it safe and how to address certain problems - and that's always been a standing offer. I hope somebody releases something for you guys eventually - something that will be at least as safe as mine.

.

We need to talk....seriously.

[Miscue]

We need to talk....seriously.

Demonstrate software that can do shot buffering, and then we'll talk.

It only takes part of a day to do this.