A possible solution the HES / 4.X problem?

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  • Vanced
    I'm Old Skool, Not My Game
    • Sep 2002
    • 489

    #46
    Hopefully I just wittnessed another step being taken for 4.X becoming available to all...

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    • RRfireblade

      • Jun 2002
      • 5103

      #47
      Yeah....if I HAD part of a day available. That's what I want you for, I can handle the liability end.
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      • Miscue
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        • Oct 2000
        • 7105

        #48
        Originally posted by Vanced
        Hopefully I just wittnessed another step being taken for 4.X becoming available to all...
        Something functionally equivalent... maybe. 4.X is dead.

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        • Miscue
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          • Oct 2000
          • 7105

          #49
          Originally posted by RRfireblade
          Yeah....if I HAD part of a day available. That's what I want you for, I can handle the liability end.
          Well, I can't help unless you have someone who can write it themselves. Sorry.

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          • GT
            Automag?
            • Dec 2001
            • 5786

            #50
            Originally posted by Vanced
            Or it's just your little racket to continue to market and hype ... until you finally let it go for major $$$ a pop and make more profit off of it than was made off the X-mags inital release.....
            You didnt know 'scue was a closet millionaire selling 4.X out the trunk of his car like crack?


            I figure it's only a matter of time before somebody does. What I worry is, it will not be as safe as mine. And if someone gets hurt, the lawyers still go after AGD - because it is their gun. A demand has been created - question is who has control over the software. The lack of 4.x being available... fuels the incentive to create dangerous software because there isn't an alternative.
            Very true, I think this is what pisses me off most. Its an AGD issue and not a programmer issue. Sorry if my other threads had seemed like they were shots at you. You have very eloquently proven that the issues, in part, can be solved but its AGD that is the hold up. My point in the last thread was this info in its entirety.


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            • Vanced
              I'm Old Skool, Not My Game
              • Sep 2002
              • 489

              #51
              Originally posted by Miscue
              Something functionally equivalent... maybe. 4.X is dead.
              Call it what you will... If it is done to an AGD quality product level which I know 4.2 is because it was done by the same guy who did the publically released by AGD 3.2 and he calls it an improvement over the orginal and done & released by people who know and care about AGD products such a RR...

              I'll be happy to have "Fireware V 1.0" flashed on my X-mag or what ever else is out there as long it is done right in my eyes...

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              • RRfireblade

                • Jun 2002
                • 5103

                #52
                Originally posted by Vanced

                I'll be happy to have "Fireware V 1.0" flashed on my X-mag or what ever else is out there as long it is done right in my eyes...

                I like that sound of that. :)

                'Cept, Brian's going to have to awnt to get in contact with me if he want's to be involved in making it happen. I can't twist his arm and it doesn't seem as though he want's to be involved.

                IDK... I have to think about what's possible.
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                • Miscue
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                  • Oct 2000
                  • 7105

                  #53
                  Originally posted by RRfireblade
                  I like that sound of that. :)

                  'Cept, Brian's going to have to awnt to get in contact with me if he want's to be involved in making it happen. I can't twist his arm and it doesn't seem as though he want's to be involved.

                  IDK... I have to think about what's possible.
                  I have zero interest in that, sorry.

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                  • Miscue
                    Super Moderator

                    • Oct 2000
                    • 7105

                    #54
                    Originally posted by GT
                    You didnt know 'scue was a closet millionaire selling 4.X out the trunk of his car like crack?
                    Closet millionaire? Eh no. I might be a thousandaire... and that would be pushing it!

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                    • RRfireblade

                      • Jun 2002
                      • 5103

                      #55
                      That's cool, No problem.

                      Just going off:

                      I hope somebody releases something for you guys eventually -
                      However, that will not keep me from helping someone else to create one - as a replacement
                      Something functionally equivalent...
                      But that's fine,as long as I know where you stand then I won't bug you anymore. :)
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                      • shatter_storm
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                        • Jun 2004
                        • 315

                        #56
                        Assuming someone could develop software for the emag independantly of AGD/Miscue, they should be smart enough not to take it to market.
                        1) I highly doubt that AGD would permit them to *sell* the software.
                        2) AGD techs and miscue would have to reflash any and all boards coming in with non-approved software, just as they do with 4.xx now.
                        3) Why write software (especially potential cheater software) and then release it to anyone for free? 3.2 can handle up to 20 bps and buffering, correct? If you develop software on your own and make it better than what's available, and you can't sell it, why should you let anyone else use it?



                        I'm keeping an eye out for cheap-ish emag lowers, just in case. I want to write my own code as much as you guys probably want 4.xx - it's what programmers do. But I'm a broke college student - cases of paint come before experimental emag lowers

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                        • Vanced
                          I'm Old Skool, Not My Game
                          • Sep 2002
                          • 489

                          #57
                          Originally posted by shatter_storm
                          I want to write my own code as much as you guys probably want 4.xx - it's what programmers do.
                          Well to me RR, is interested in possibly releasing some software ... and it somewhat sounds like Miscue is willing to help who ever wants to release software as long as they have someone else write it from scrach.... AND now sounds like Shatter_storm is wanting to write some software from scrach ???


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                          • shatter_storm
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                            • Jun 2004
                            • 315

                            #58
                            Originally posted by Vanced
                            Well to me RR, is interested in possibly releasing some software ... and it somewhat sounds like Miscue is willing to help who ever wants to release software as long as they have someone else write it from scrach.... AND now sounds like Shatter_storm is wanting to write some software from scrach ???

                            Yeah, but I can't do anything without a board, RR can't do anything without some code, and miscue won't do anything without someone showing some serious effort.

                            Get me a board and I'll try and recreate 4.xx, but I can't promise anything.

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                            • trains are bad
                              Registered User
                              • Oct 2003
                              • 1751

                              #59
                              Why not just ditch the HES and use a microswitch? Is there actually anything better about the HES except that it sounds cool?
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                              • TheTramp
                                Registered User
                                • Jan 2001
                                • 4019

                                #60
                                No click. Of course an optical switch would be the same.
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