Giving tickets a way to reduce cheating?

[Gunga]

Wouldnt it be possible for sponsors to pay the ticket for them? If the team is good, and the sponsor really wants them, why wouldnt they? So then you have cheating players who dont pay for it themselves. Then again the sponsor could be furious and drop the ponsorship all together.

Addressed that in my previous post.

[digitard]

I think the only problem with 'tickets' is that they're relying on the refs call...

In most professional sports if a call is questioned they have a camera system that will allow the ref to view what happened, or they have multiple ref's following the same action (football is the guy w/ the ball, basketball same thing, baseball its wherever the ball is going). You can have a focal point that multiple ref's can see from various angles.

In paintball you may have 4-5 refs watching a field, but they're primarily watching certain spots. Not to mention a lot of ref's would require some '100% standard and specifialized' training course so taht all ref's go through the same training and have a high quality of ref'ing so that there's not a discrepancy on training. They would all need the same stuff so that theres a ref'ing standard.

Then there's the 'backup system'. They would need some type of video recording system in place that covers both sides of each field so if a team/player believes they were pulled unfairly they can question it just like Football and if they're right somethign would need to be done, and just like football if they're wrong they get another type of penalty. In a system with fines for cheating you would need to give the players a way to rebute the charge and if they're found right do they have to replay the match?

I think fining is a great idea... it would definitaly discourage cheating. But for the idea to materialize they would have to put a lot of 'changes' into the sport which I'm not sure would be financially feasable right now. Who knows though.

okay im sick, im rambling and im even starting to confuse myself.

[LudavicoSoldier]

I propose a ticket in the form of a PGP loaded with pepper balls!

[FreakBaller12]

It won't work unless had leagues do that and any new league will with a good way of enforcing it..Think of it this way, If i would risk a money fine and no fines in the other, which would you pick? Even if nxl,psp, and nppl all do it, it opens up the door for a new league and EASILY attract all the pro teams that also bring the crowds.

[digitard]

You wouldn't be risking a money fine if you weren't cheating.

[Miscue]

How about DQ'ing players when cheating? The problem is, they cheat so well it's hard to tell sometimes if it was on purpose or coincidence. And it could very well be coincidence or an accident on occassion. I think it's worse to penalize an innocent person, than to miss a guilty person.

I've played on lots of times on accident - or have done things that would be cheating if on purpose. I've been shot in the leg, and didn't feel it because I had a squeegee in my pocket - and played on. I'm sure all of us have had something similar happen.

I think that maybe a rule like, you can't dive head first might be helpful... even if it was limited to just the break.

White cotton jerseys... white cotton gloves.

[SlartyBartFast]

How about DQ'ing players when cheating? The problem is, they cheat so well it's hard to tell sometimes if it was on purpose or coincidence. And it could very well be coincidence or an accident on occassion. I think it's worse to penalize an innocent person, than to miss a guilty person.

While that's an admirable opinion when the penalty is jail time or capital punishment, we're talking game penalties here.

Do you care if a high stick was deliberate or accidental? Interference in basketball? or any other rules violation and penalty in any other sport? No.

You're gun goes FA when FA isn't allowed and the penalty is a DQ for you and your team? Tough. Get a better marker next time.

You "accidentally" rubbed the hit off your arm on the bunker? TOUGH. 1 for 1 or 2 for 1 as per the rule book. (Rules say you should have checked it as soon as you should have felt it anyways.)

[Miscue]

While that's an admirable opinion when the penalty is jail time or capital punishment, we're talking game penalties here.

Do you care if a high stick was deliberate or accidental? Interference in basketball? or any other rules violation and penalty in any other sport? No.

You're gun goes FA when FA isn't allowed and the penalty is a DQ for you and your team? Tough. Get a better marker next time.

You "accidentally" rubbed the hit off your arm on the bunker? TOUGH. 1 for 1 or 2 for 1 as per the rule book. (Rules say you should have checked it as soon as you should have felt it anyways.)

Well, that was in reference is passing out "fines" to players - or tossing them from the tourny completely. It would suck to be fined or thrown out when you didn't do anything on purpose.

[jekyll]

i don't see how fines could be enforced. It might be more effective if players automatically lose x point/s every tournament game they play for every ticket they have. That way it becomes harder to win and more likely they will get kicked off their team.

[CaliMagFan]

i don't see how fines could be enforced. It might be more effective if players automatically lose x point/s every tournament game they play for every ticket they have. That way it becomes harder to win and more likely they will get kicked off their team.

To you and WenULiVeUdiE... There is something in this world called a credit card. Force teams to submit a valid credit card number to pay for the event and to give the series and the Ruling agencies access to funds should the teams be fined.

Right now soccer teams and other sports organizations are Incorporations, they have CEOs and the whole 9 yards. If the league wants to sue the SF 49's or one of it's players for a reason, they have the means to do it cause the teams cannot be part of the the league if they don't have an account with the league.

It makes a lot more red tape, and kinda turns things into a beurocracy, but it might be necessary..

-kyro

[SlartyBartFast]

Well, that was in reference is passing out "fines" to players - or tossing them from the tourny completely. It would suck to be fined or thrown out when you didn't do anything on purpose.

But, if penalties won't make people learn and improve their skills so they don't "accidentally" break the rules, what will.

My view is still that discussion of stricter rules is pointless until the current rules are enforced properly.