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  • BLachance75
    Formerly lancecst
    • Jul 2002
    • 582

    #1

    114ci co2 tank

    How many ounces of co2 can you put in a 114ci tank.
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  • trains are bad
    Registered User
    • Oct 2003
    • 1751

    #2
    A LOT.

    Around 34 oz should be fine, I know a guy who runs 32 in a 68, fwiw.
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    • Buff
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      • Apr 2002
      • 414

      #3
      bwahahahaha, I gotta try that!

      will an N2 tank take co2 w/o and mods?

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      • Chronobreak
        Rec Poster
        • Mar 2003
        • 5055

        #4
        Originally posted by Buff
        bwahahahaha, I gotta try that!

        will an N2 tank take co2 w/o and mods?

        correct me if im wrong u can just use nitro tanks/some for co2 but ocne u do you gotta replace ther g if u go back to nitro.

        or the reg has to be changed for co2.

        only people that are no offence dumb enough or had a reason to do this were people who happened to have a spare tank w/out reg or oldschool shocker owners

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        • trains are bad
          Registered User
          • Oct 2003
          • 1751

          #5
          I use several fiber wrapped 68ci tanks with co2, which I run on my cocker, because

          1. they are more comfortable to shoulder, and look better
          2. they are more consistent because they are big.

          I usually run around 20oz in mine, which puts it very underfilled by volume (low liquid level), but still enough Co2 to shoot all day on. Underfilled like this with an anti-siphon tank they are very constistent.

          I do know people who have run CO2 in maxflows, reg and all, but this requires special filling equipment and is not worth it IMO.

          I just remove the reg and install a regular CO2 pin valve and anti-siphon.

          When my teammate gets his new shocker I'm going to set it up with a bottomline female palmer's stabilizer and a fiber wrapped CO2 tank. Then if he wants he can screw a HP screw in into it too.
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          • teufelhunden
            Registered Bamf
            • Jul 2003
            • 2691

            #6
            I believe the old 3k manifold Maxxy's actually came with an anti-siphon line pre-installed and could go from CO2->HPA and back without a problem.

            You can fill any HPA tank with CO2, but it will weaken the fiber that holds the tank together. Be careful refilling it with HPA.
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            • trains are bad
              Registered User
              • Oct 2003
              • 1751

              #7
              correct me if im wrong u can just use nitro tanks/some for co2 but ocne u do you gotta replace ther g if u go back to nitro.
              I wouldn't run a HPA tank reg with CO2. Because like I said filling it is a hassle at any field and it might kill some regs. It can be done, I just think it's pointless.
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              • trains are bad
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                • Oct 2003
                • 1751

                #8
                You can fill any HPA tank with CO2, but it will weaken the fiber that holds the tank together. Be careful refilling it with HPA.
                No it won't.
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                • Kaiser Bob
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                  • Jan 2002
                  • 1157

                  #9
                  CO2 in a 114ci would do quite nicely for scenario or rec where air fills are far away, given you dont live in a cold climate, have a good co2 reg and arent trying to use it on a ramping dm4 at 25bps or something. 40oz tanks are heavy as a mofo
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                  • teufelhunden
                    Registered Bamf
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 2691

                    #10
                    Originally posted by trains are bad
                    No it won't.

                    You wanna bet? The fiber of the tank is made to expand when under the pressures exerted by putting a few thousand PSI into it. Then when you put liquid CO2 in.. they get really cold. Know what happens when something gets really cold? If not, run around outside naked in a snow storm, and you'll get the picture.

                    It gets worse if you alternate HPA and CO2 fills.
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                    • SSniper
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                      • Jan 2005
                      • 113

                      #11
                      Originally posted by teufelhunden
                      Know what happens when something gets really cold? If not, run around outside naked in a snow storm, and you'll get the picture..
                      hahahahaha


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                      • trains are bad
                        Registered User
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 1751

                        #12
                        well if you provide actual evidence to support that theory, I might consider it.
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                        • teufelhunden
                          Registered Bamf
                          • Jul 2003
                          • 2691

                          #13
                          How about known scientific fact that under pressure, especially extreme pressure, the vessel holding said pressure expands? And that everything [save water] contracts when frozen/chilled?
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                          • trains are bad
                            Registered User
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 1751

                            #14
                            I know that too, that's not up for debate.

                            What's up for debate is whether or not chilling a composite tank to the temperatures seen by a CO2 tank causes weakening or damage.

                            I have never read anything about cold temperatures causing damage to fiber tanks. The only manufacturer's warnings regarding temperatures say not to heat one over 120*c.

                            Find actual evidence that chilling a fiber tank causes damage, and I will consider it. But don't go around making statements about something as if it's fact, when it's actually just something you thought might happen.
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                            • Chronobreak
                              Rec Poster
                              • Mar 2003
                              • 5055

                              #15
                              hmm wasnt this info in toms recent psot of compressed air specs and commone misinformation?

                              there was a max temp to be exposed for the tanks

                              also i beleive there was soemthing about co2 being able to eat of the lienr inside from expanding/contracting

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