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  • Minimag4me
    Registered User
    • Jul 2001
    • 779

    #1

    Z-grips and off set drops

    do i need an offset drop to run a z-grip comportably?

    Will a cp flame drop work for a while?

    what are some good offset drops for pretty cheap?

    This is in preperation of my z, any advice?
    -Minimag Body HR
    -Retro Valve
    -Z grip with extender
    -12V X-Boarded Revvy
    -6 barrels including:10 Inch DYE SS, 8 inch Steel Wind, 8 inch stock minimag barrel, 12 inch BOA barrel, 12 inch Lapco Autospirit, 16 inch SPAA
    -68/3000 Flatline
  • Dave
    The Neighborhood Tech
    • Oct 2001
    • 815

    #2
    I know exactly what your talking about. I had the same issue. I was using a Shockteck stubby, and it was not enough, the tank kept getting in the way of my wrist.I thought about getting something that would offset the tank. THe trouble is, I am gonna be putting a warp feed on my mag, and the combo was nearly impossible with an offset drop. ok, picture this, your looking at the back of your mag. I assume your right handed, so you want the tank to be offset to the left. If it was offset to the right, it would be directly in the way of your wrist. So you offset to the left. But then, its right in the way of a warp! Now there are a few ways to get around it, depending on how low you want the tank, how far the tank is forward, etc. I think BlackVGC runs a Z-grip+warp feed with an offset tank, so it can be done sometimes. What I have right now is a Z-grip w/ a Kapp dropzone stubby, turned around backwards. The curved piece that holds it all together conforms right around my wrist, there is no obstruction of the warp, and I get a nice drop. My best advice is to get your Z-grip on, then head down to the shop with an idea of what you want. Find something that drops it the right height for you, then think aobut offsetting it and possible combo with a warp in mind. Have fun

    -Dave

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    • Army
      Moderator of DOOOOOOOOMMM!

      • Oct 2000
      • 5785

      #3
      I had to make an offset for my Mini after I put on my CP 2" Flame drop. It was rather easy actually.

      I used an 1/8" thick, 2"X3" bit of aluminum plate. Carefully measure the distance between the holes in the grip (start from the outside of one, to the inside of the other: here, O<- to here, O<-). That's easier than trying to measure from the center.

      Simply cut the plate to the length you want to offset, measure the hole locations and carefully drill and countersink, remember to countersink one set of holes on the flip side of the others. You'll have to get two more screws BTW.

      Mount everything up to see if it fits and works, then finish or paint it to match your gun.

      Good luck!

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      • Xzion
        Official Dragon of AO
        • Jan 2001
        • 1617

        #4
        I have a KAPP DZII with my Z-Grip and don't offset the tank, I find the DZII puts the tank down far enough that actually makes it comfortable, and causes my tank to act more as a wrist support, and also allows me to mount my Warp Feed on the 'marker as well. Feel free to take a look at some pics of my setup via the link below my sig.

        View My Mags

        "Think First, Think Fast, Be Careful, Pursue. Be Great."

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        • Dave
          The Neighborhood Tech
          • Oct 2001
          • 815

          #5
          Xzion, that Z-gripped mag is a mighty fine marker Are you able to shoulder it with that DZII on there? I have my DZ Stubby turned around the other way the marker pulls up very close to me


          -Dave

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          • Minimag4me
            Registered User
            • Jul 2001
            • 779

            #6
            Army-where can i get alluminum plate?

            If that doesnt work does anyone make offset drops that i can order somewhere?
            -Minimag Body HR
            -Retro Valve
            -Z grip with extender
            -12V X-Boarded Revvy
            -6 barrels including:10 Inch DYE SS, 8 inch Steel Wind, 8 inch stock minimag barrel, 12 inch BOA barrel, 12 inch Lapco Autospirit, 16 inch SPAA
            -68/3000 Flatline

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            • MajorDamage
              King of Polyester!
              • Dec 2000
              • 3141

              #7
              Ni-cD's Dad made me and him an offset plate like what Army is talking about. I think Ni-cD may sell his for like $10 or something.

              ENDO!
              Oldskool

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              • Xzion
                Official Dragon of AO
                • Jan 2001
                • 1617

                #8
                Dave; I can when I'm coming out of my bunker, as I'm leaning out and sighting down the 'marker, if I did it while standing straight up the valve would touch my face, most of the time I'm holding my 'mag before me, supporting and steadying it by either the tank or the warp feed. It seems to suit my methods well, and I LOVE how tight it is.... and thanx for the compliment.

                View My Mags

                "Think First, Think Fast, Be Careful, Pursue. Be Great."

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                • Army
                  Moderator of DOOOOOOOOMMM!

                  • Oct 2000
                  • 5785

                  #9
                  Any hardware store should have some metal plate selection.

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                  • Minimag4me
                    Registered User
                    • Jul 2001
                    • 779

                    #10
                    anyone have a pic of a benchmark off set?

                    should i just spring and buy a kappdz2, im still using co2 right now(i know i know) but it works fine for my setup
                    what part of the tank could i clamp the dz2 to(maybe outside of an asa?)
                    -Minimag Body HR
                    -Retro Valve
                    -Z grip with extender
                    -12V X-Boarded Revvy
                    -6 barrels including:10 Inch DYE SS, 8 inch Steel Wind, 8 inch stock minimag barrel, 12 inch BOA barrel, 12 inch Lapco Autospirit, 16 inch SPAA
                    -68/3000 Flatline

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                    • X-Plosive
                      AO's sexiest member, and biggest post whore :)
                      • Mar 2001
                      • 1807

                      #11
                      I use a stubby DZII on a 68ci raptor rex, only about an inch of my tank sticks out past the valve. I like the stubby, the DZII just seems like a little too much drop when it's used with the z-grip. May be good for some people that like their head by the barrel.


                      Taking mags apart is fun, its even more fun when you don't know what you're doing

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                      • Minimag4me
                        Registered User
                        • Jul 2001
                        • 779

                        #12
                        anyone have a pic of a benchmark off set?

                        sadly im still using co2 right now(i know i know) but it works fine for my setup
                        what part of the tank could i clamp the a dz2/stubby to(maybe outside of an asa?
                        -Minimag Body HR
                        -Retro Valve
                        -Z grip with extender
                        -12V X-Boarded Revvy
                        -6 barrels including:10 Inch DYE SS, 8 inch Steel Wind, 8 inch stock minimag barrel, 12 inch BOA barrel, 12 inch Lapco Autospirit, 16 inch SPAA
                        -68/3000 Flatline

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                        • X-Plosive
                          AO's sexiest member, and biggest post whore :)
                          • Mar 2001
                          • 1807

                          #13
                          yeah, KAPP make nice on/off ASA's that fit the DZII and stubby.


                          Taking mags apart is fun, its even more fun when you don't know what you're doing

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                          • Dave
                            The Neighborhood Tech
                            • Oct 2001
                            • 815

                            #14
                            BlackVGC I think uses a benchmark drop like you are talking about. Some real nice pics of his mag are on the first page of the Official Automag Pictures thread and also on the Best Looking Mag thread.

                            -Dave

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                            • Minimag4me
                              Registered User
                              • Jul 2001
                              • 779

                              #15
                              thanks ill look for some pics
                              -Minimag Body HR
                              -Retro Valve
                              -Z grip with extender
                              -12V X-Boarded Revvy
                              -6 barrels including:10 Inch DYE SS, 8 inch Steel Wind, 8 inch stock minimag barrel, 12 inch BOA barrel, 12 inch Lapco Autospirit, 16 inch SPAA
                              -68/3000 Flatline

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