It's official .... 15 bps cap Rules

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  • trains are bad
    Registered User
    • Oct 2003
    • 1751

    #31
    I am mistaken, it's 15bps, I was send an incomplete quote of the rule that only included the major penalty.

    I agree that anyone who thinks this will slow them down if they are legal now has probably not shot one of the rampers out there. I have a predator and AFA hard ramping at 15bps is just insanely mowing.

    In general, me and others with with ramping capabilities, will be shooting MUCH FASTER now with these rules.

    actually I live in oh and it doesn't affect me but still.
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    • cris8762
      Village Idiot
      • Jun 2002
      • 1763

      #32
      for real dude

      i can say for sure that i'm gonna be blowing faces off come the first cfoa event
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      • Lohman446
        Useful posts: 7
        • Jun 2003
        • 9315

        #33
        Please please please let NPPL and PSP adopt this rule... cause it will filter to small tournaments.. and they (the smaller ones) have no way of seeing if my Predator board is limited at 15BPS or 30 .. Please please please
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        • TheTramp
          Registered User
          • Jan 2001
          • 4019

          #34
          Personaly I like the rule.

          While I've fired over 15bps before I have to say that when I set my gun on debounce 1 and Hyper mode with a max rof of fire 15bps (as long as I keep pulling the trigger faster than 6 bps) I get REALLY consistant ropes. I could never do 15+ bps for 4 sec without ilegal switch bounc/buffering etc.

          I can do faster strings for shorter but I'd rather have long ropes of 15.
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          • cris8762
            Village Idiot
            • Jun 2002
            • 1763

            #35
            PSP has adopted these rules from what i've heard

            NPPL, i doubt it...they like their robot
            Originally posted by SprayingMango-

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            • elpimpo
              carpe noctem
              • Nov 2002
              • 1713

              #36
              nppl is not dumb enough to enforce a gay rule like this. its so dumb... you dont think they are going to have people out there with cheating cheater boards that will ramp up over 15 a second. whos going to be able to tell on a field if it ramps up over the limit. its just like the old days you know last year when this gay rule wasnt in affect in psp and what not. the nppl are the smart ones by letting people only with true semi and trying hard to stop rampers, these fools are encoraging ramping... sounds pretty homosexual to me
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              • TheTramp
                Registered User
                • Jan 2001
                • 4019

                #37
                You seem pretty interested typing "gay." Seems pretty homosexual to me.
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                • cris8762
                  Village Idiot
                  • Jun 2002
                  • 1763

                  #38
                  Originally posted by elpimpo
                  nppl is not dumb enough to enforce a gay rule like this. its so dumb... you dont think they are going to have people out there with cheating cheater boards that will ramp up over 15 a second. whos going to be able to tell on a field if it ramps up over the limit. its just like the old days you know last year when this gay rule wasnt in affect in psp and what not. the nppl are the smart ones by letting people only with true semi and trying hard to stop rampers, these fools are encoraging ramping... sounds pretty homosexual to me
                  Um, dude.......there are these little things called radar guns that the NXL has been using to make sure they aren't shooting over 15 bps with the full auto boards. I know that Larry Moates (guy that runs CFOA) has already gotten some of these to use this season.

                  How about you get a clue then try posting again.
                  Originally posted by SprayingMango-

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                  • SlartyBartFast
                    The Flying Scotsman
                    • Jun 2002
                    • 2940

                    #39
                    Originally posted by cris8762
                    PSP has adopted these rules from what i've heard

                    NPPL, i doubt it...they like their robot

                    Someone's going to sue an organiser when they get bunkered and subjected to a 1 second barrage of fire to the back of their head.

                    I'm surprised the last high-profile of melon-thunping didn't result in lawsuits.

                    The NPPL can at least demonstrate they are doing theri best to stop unsafe play and lay blame for injury from over-shooting on the player.

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                    • Awkward
                      Registered User
                      • Jan 2005
                      • 169

                      #40
                      I believe that they should not put a cap on how fast u can shoot they should just make ramping boards illegal and cut the trigger bounce crap

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                      • Awkward
                        Registered User
                        • Jan 2005
                        • 169

                        #41
                        I believe that they should not put a cap on how fast u can shoot they should just make ramping boards illegal and cut the trigger bounce crap

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                        • Awkward
                          Registered User
                          • Jan 2005
                          • 169

                          #42
                          really really sorry for posting twice

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                          • MonsterMag
                            Got Emag? I dont...Dm4 :)
                            • Aug 2004
                            • 1093

                            #43
                            So an emag will be allowed? If the board is set to 15?

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                            • Lurker27
                              Registered User
                              • Jun 2004
                              • 287

                              #44
                              Originally posted by SlartyBartFast
                              So why is the leagues haven't made one yet?



                              Even if possible I think that it would be a sight more than 30$

                              Seeing as you need some kind of robot trigger pulling machine and a highend chronograph and ballistics timer, you're easily into hundreds of dollars.

                              And then, that multi-hundred dollar machine can be beat with a few dollars of inexpensive tech (or nontech) or programming.

                              The bps limit however does have a chance of being enforceable.

                              Is it a cop-out? Sure. But if you're going to allow everyone to use electros and bring their own markers there's no way to feasibly enforce any other ROF rules.
                              Sounds like a job for a $1.50 PIC, a $1.76 Dual color LED, a $.99 surplus solenoid, and a $1.09 pair of WAS eyes...But that's just me.

                              The majority of cheaters locally aren't ramping, they're sweetspotting or bouncing without safeguards to prevent being caught. This would slow them down, at the very least.

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                              • cris8762
                                Village Idiot
                                • Jun 2002
                                • 1763

                                #45
                                i have a hard time believing that ramping is not prevalent anywhere that has any tourney players at all. Pretty much everyone and their brother with an electro is now shooting some type of ramping gun.

                                edit: i also played xball with a proto that had the musashi3 programming. On the PSP/NXL/CFOA mode the gun was ripping heads off, it was great.....cant wait for the season to start
                                Last edited by cris8762; 01-31-2005, 08:35 PM.
                                Originally posted by SprayingMango-

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                                It's okay to mix peas and corn. But don't call it "porn".

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