Moderation on AO - Poll

[Fred]

I vote D: They just need to be consistant.

---Fred

[Muzikman]

my concern is not the tightness or looseness of the control, but the fairness and the comunicativeness of the mods.

if I get banned for having *'s show up in my post, then so should the next guy. If someone gets banned for saying "damn", then so should the next guy.

if they are enforced fairly, the rules are not really an issue I find...

The only problem with that is that a mod will only react to what they actually see. If they see you do it, they will react. If they don't see the other person's post, they will not. I am sure it's hard to read every post in every thread in every forum. If they miss one, I don't think people should get upset.

As for the perm bands. They are there for a reason. Have they been dished out too easily in the past, maybe, but to be honest, I bet the perm ban list is not as long as you think and I bet most are from those people that register to spam the forums and never plan on returning.

I know last week there was a huge uproar, but to be honest, maybe this is just what AO needed to stop and take a look at the way the mods do their job as well as the users look at themselves and maybe change the way they post. It's a two way road. If people would post with thought, maybe the mods would moderate with thought.

[PBX Ronin 23]

I know last week there was a huge uproar, but to be honest, maybe this is just what AO needed to stop and take a look at the way the mods do their job as well as the users look at themselves and maybe change the way they post. It's a two way road. If people would post with thought, maybe the mods would moderate with thought.

Well said Jason. Not wanting to sound like my grandfather but a house will only be as good as the parents/elders of that house will let it.

[Lee]

things are about right. lets give the new set up a chance.

glad to see you're still around tom!

[Chronobreak]

i saw things slacking on AO for awhile im glad to see the mods finaly cracking down and enforcing rules.

some mods(shal remain naimless) although do get a little abusive with their power either by messing with things they shouldnt or making snide comments.

[RRfireblade]

It's generally fine as long as it's 'evenly' distributed. There sometimes seem to be too much selective moderation.

Not sure if there's really hidden agenda or just to many 'friendships'. 'Cept I'm not sure what can be done about that.


Otherwise it's seems reasonable.

[Eric Cartman]

I think the steps being taken are certainly in the right direction. I think the ban thread is a good idea. I'd also like to see the mods come to a consensus before taking any drastic actions - long or perm bans. The past brouhaha seems to indicate that there's been some dissension in the mod ranks of late. That's not good for anyone.

I don't think it's possible to have a set of rules that can cover every possible situation and therefore, the rules will always be open to interpretation. This means that a post which doesn't actually break a rule may be closed or result in a warning and that's not always going to sit well with everyone.
There are members who are quick to call any complaint or disagreement "whining" which can be mighty annoying. No rules have actually been broken though. There are also members who simply can not let an argument die, let's face it, no one really wants someone else to get the last word in, but frequently threads turn into arguments between a couple of posters that no longer has anything to do with the topic of the thread. As long as there's been no flaming, then no rules have been broken, yet again people are annoyed when the thread gets closed because of it. Members who are frequently involved in this type of behaviour should be warned about it IMO whether they're breaking rules or not, it's still disruptive. Others will disagree.

No matter what happens with the mods, members are going to have to try to excercise a bit more tolerance and learn to just let things go for AO to get back to being the fun and educational place it used to be. Sometimes it's better to just bite your tongue and try to ignore a post that may annoy you. If you see a thread started by someone you don't like, maybe it's better to just not click on it in the first place. It's not always easy, but it's better in the long run.


My $0.02

[-=Squid=-]

Well, after random-ban the other day, I think the moderates have just gone completely nuts.

They can't ban some people for causing extreme disruptiveness, but I took a 3 day for... Well, I still don't really know why, they just told me I was taking a three day.

[REDRT]

I think perma bands are bull. Better have a darn good reason. In case of an instance of curcumventing a band, to then get perma band, I thought it was crappy. Should've reband for a longer amount of time. Not perma band. We are a small group and to through out a member forever isn't good for us or the company. It is like sending someone to the chair without a trial & lawyer.

[Kevmaster]

My only issue is consistancy.

Whatever the rules are determined to be, we will play by them. Treat us all as equals and we'll be happy.



however, IMO, the rules should be made a little laxer...but if not, then whatev...just call it fair both ways

[stop whining buy a mag]

Most of the time the Mods have been doing great. If things get out of hand in a thread they give a warning or sometimes ban the personn starting everything.

There have been a few instances lately were unjustified bans were given.

[cledford]

I just think the "banned thread" at the top of the page sends the wrong message. After hearing a little it seems that the mods put it up to publically keep track of bannings as there were accusations of unfair treatment. That makes sense but IMHO could serve the same purpose at the BOTTOM of the page and not send as strong a negitive message as it does where it is now.

The mods are great and this is the best run, best moderated forum I've been in on the entire web. May hat is off to them and the above comment is not intended to detract from what they do.

-Calvin

[Bolter]

I have no problem with the mods or the rules. Thanks for asking us :)

[joez]

For the most part it is pretty good. There are some instances where the mods have gone to far, and others where they have not gone far enough. My personal opinion*, is that the intelligence level of AO in FC has dropped to fast for the mods to know how to handle it in recent times. There are some rules they seem to enforce to harshly, and others not enough.



*Disclaimer: This is just an observation i have made and is only my opinion. The mods to a fantastic job everywhere, except sometimes seem to be on different pages when it comes to FC. Again, this is only an observation and opinion, it is not a fact.

[Rebel46_99]

I think the steps being taken are certainly in the right direction. I think the ban thread is a good idea. I'd also like to see the mods come to a consensus before taking any drastic actions - long or perm bans. The past brouhaha seems to indicate that there's been some dissension in the mod ranks of late. That's not good for anyone.

I don't think it's possible to have a set of rules that can cover every possible situation and therefore, the rules will always be open to interpretation. This means that a post which doesn't actually break a rule may be closed or result in a warning and that's not always going to sit well with everyone.
There are members who are quick to call any complaint or disagreement "whining" which can be mighty annoying. No rules have actually been broken though. There are also members who simply can not let an argument die, let's face it, no one really wants someone else to get the last word in, but frequently threads turn into arguments between a couple of posters that no longer has anything to do with the topic of the thread. As long as there's been no flaming, then no rules have been broken, yet again people are annoyed when the thread gets closed because of it. Members who are frequently involved in this type of behaviour should be warned about it IMO whether they're breaking rules or not, it's still disruptive. Others will disagree.

No matter what happens with the mods, members are going to have to try to excercise a bit more tolerance and learn to just let things go for AO to get back to being the fun and educational place it used to be. Sometimes it's better to just bite your tongue and try to ignore a post that may annoy you. If you see a thread started by someone you don't like, maybe it's better to just not click on it in the first place. It's not always easy, but it's better in the long run.


My $0.02

I agree with this. The biggest problem I see is the juvenile testosterone that gets thrown around. The constant "get the last word" mentality only ramps things out of control and even when one or the other of the parties involved offers a way to calm things down or is "given an out", it is rarely taken. Also, the ever-present "lack of reading comprehension" retorts and various other slaps at one's intelligence only add fuel to the fire. We can read just fine thank you. Your spelling may be dreadfully lacking but that's a different problem.

One of the best things that happened was for the "political" discussions to disappear. Although I enjoy discussing "politics", I don't enjoy being told by someone who can't even vote yet, that my point of view is unacceptable because of their vast "experience" on the subject at hand.

One last thing..... If every member of this community is as big as they say they are, AO would have a lineup every other team in the NFL would envy. Frankly, I don't give a Holy Hoot and Holler how big you say you are and neither does anybody else.

To the Mods.... Keep the permanent bans. If an individual knows he'll only be gone for a specified time, chances are the behavior will be repeated when he returns.

Thanx
DW