Interpreting Sig rules

[teufelhunden]

Sycophant.

Careful, you may confuse someone using big words.

[RobAGD]

RobAGD: Please note that you have banned spacedtedybear for something he is unaware of.

Spacedtedybear's last activity was 9:51pm last night. Your post with the 30day rule in it is time stamped 10:31pm.

You mentioned you would look into it, but you have had time to add to the list, but not clear his ban?

I respectfully submit you have banned him in error.

OK I am confused on this one.

His post time is :
Yesterday, 12:27 AM ( this is at 4am EST on 2/20 ) so his post was at
12:27am 2/19/05

My post was at :
02-18-2005, 11:54 PM

How is that after his post ? Unless he spent over 35 minutes making that post mine was up well before his.

-R

[Muzikman]

Ok, can people just please grow up and remember, it's the damn internet! God people, no one was arrested, no one was put in jail, no one is going to have to pay a fine. Everyone will get on with their lives. If they come back, then great, I hope they act more mature, if you are thinking about leaving, so be it, there will be more people to take your place.

AO has been going down hill for some time, but sorry folks, it's not the damn mods, it's the damn users....it's YOU, not THEM!

You people look at the mods the same way you look at the police. If a cop pulls you over and writes you a ticket, you get pissed and cry and moan to all your friends, but it was his job. Same thing with a forum mod, you break a law, they punish you...just be glad that all you get is a break from the forums. There are a lot of other things you can be doing. Go out play a little, take your dog for a walk. Life does not, reovolve around AO, or the internet for that matter.

Remember, only YOU can make AO (or any forum) better...it's YOU!!! All YOU!!! Get it yet? (probably not).

[-=Squid=-]

Ya, but if a member didn't break a rule, then what? Namely, Automaggot. I say again. He did not do anything that goes against any rules, or your stupid made up LPB rule. He was talking about me.

[Blennidae]

OK I am confused on this one.

His post time is :
Yesterday, 12:27 AM ( this is at 4am EST on 2/20 ) so his post was at
12:27am 2/19/05

My post was at :
02-18-2005, 11:54 PM

How is that after his post ? Unless he spent over 35 minutes making that post mine was up well before his.

-R

OK, now I am confused.

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Reply #91 9:27pm on 2/18 by spacedtedybear
Reply #101 10:31pm on 2/18 by RobAGD (with the 30day ban rule)

This is what I was referring to. His post was before your rule post. He has not posted further in this thread. His post was before your rule was in effect, so he would be unaware of it.

edit: I missed reply #85 8:54 2/18 by RobAGD (1st mention of 30day ban).

Oh well, sorry STB, I guess you should have specified exactly how long it took you to write your reply.

[Lohman446]

If we're banning people for still arguing and bringing up LPB doesn't that mean you should ban yourself Rob? Of course, then you would have to ban me alright nevermind ... perhaps we should just add LPB to the cuss list so the filter takes care of that



Disclaimer: this post was a joke, it was meant to be funny - it was not meant to be inflamatory towards either side, it was not meant to cause problems. It was meant to bring a little bit of humor into this situation as noted with its liberal use of smilies throughout.
Translation of disclaimer. Please don't ban me

[Blennidae]

Ok, can people just please grow up and remember, it's the damn internet! God people, no one was arrested, no one was put in jail, no one is going to have to pay a fine. Everyone will get on with their lives. If they come back, then great, I hope they act more mature, if you are thinking about leaving, so be it, there will be more people to take your place.

AO has been going down hill for some time, but sorry folks, it's not the damn mods, it's the damn users....it's YOU, not THEM!

You people look at the mods the same way you look at the police. If a cop pulls you over and writes you a ticket, you get pissed and cry and moan to all your friends, but it was his job. Same thing with a forum mod, you break a law, they punish you...just be glad that all you get is a break from the forums. There are a lot of other things you can be doing. Go out play a little, take your dog for a walk. Life does not, reovolve around AO, or the internet for that matter.

Remember, only YOU can make AO (or any forum) better...it's YOU!!! All YOU!!! Get it yet? (probably not).

[Muzikman]

Again, I state I have never been banned. You want to ask why? Because I do not push the rules or the mods. If everyone just ignored it, things would go away, but no, everyone has to keep bringing things up. If there is a flaw, then fine, there is a flaw, hell, there are flaws in our constitution, but only the people that want to cause trouble continue to point these flaws out. AO has been around for how many years, many of which problem free. It has only been recently that there have been problems, and it seems like most surround a single 12 year old kids. I mean come on guys...

I am seriously starting to think Tom should just give up on AO and let it close. It's not doing AGD any good having it running, it seems more and more people are saying they are leaving and never coming back, it seems that a lot of people have left and not come back, and it seems more of a headache for all that are trying to keep order.

I agree, Z-man is a good guy, I have never met him but until now I have not seen him start any problems. But he and many other pushed a mod, and let me tell ya, if you talk back to a cop, he will hit you with a fine or arrest you. People need to show some respect, but ya know what, it's not just AO, or the internet where there is no respect, it's life in general. It's amazing how rude people in the world are. I think the Internet just let's those rude people show it even more.

BTW, at no time has a mod shot anyone. Being banned from a forum and being shot are a bit different. Being banned is kinda like being suspended from school, but hell, even that is more of a punishment. YOu are now not learning. What do you lose by not being on AO? Except for a few people that make their living (or extra money) selling stuff on here, you lose nothing.

If you look at the trend AO has used in the past, you will see that people that were perm banned were many times let back in and many times let back in pretty quick. If people would just learn to let it go, calm down, take a break and look at the big picture things would be much better.

Remember, only you can prevent forest fires, or forum fires as the case may be.

[Blennidae]

[xXHavokXx]

NOR*CAL Represent.


Banning Zman is like banning Condolezza Rice, he is AGDs prime diplomat to the barbaric masses.

[FallNAngel]

This post is more or less addressed to RobAGD... so if I use "you", everyone knows who I'm referring to:

My “shot dead” analogy was never meant to imply a mod had ever shot anyone. Sure, talking back to a cop will get you in trouble, but the cop shouldn’t be able to make up a new law to fit his annoyance level.

I agree. Just because a mod is aggrivated because a user is doing something they don't like, doesn't mean they should be banned for it. I haven't gone to the other forums, so I may be off base here, but I haven't seen hoards of "BRING BACK LPB!" threads... so to me, this just seems like something that's annoying you. If you think the LPB is too off topic for this thread, then either lock the thread or split the posts.

Maybe if the original question had been answered to everyones, or at least the thread starters satisfaction it would not have come back up.

Again, I agree. Personally, I think it *is* our business, at least to an extent to know what's going on. Do we need to know exact intricate details? No, asking "what happened?" and wanting to know what's happening on the forum we support I think is perfectly within reason.

I think all of us got way too off-topic on this whole thread. This thread was created to see if it would be a problem to have RobAGD's old signature as a current signature, not a "Free LPB!" thread. If the answer to the question is "Having it as your signature is not an offense, using it as your signature is", then say it. If I'm hardpressed to find it in one of your posts, does that make it ok to have? I mean, if that's the case, perhaps I should go back to my first posts and start editing them, inserting porn and such. I mean, it's ok, right? No, obviously not. Does that mean I can have porn in my signature, as long as I don't use it? I hope not. We're not questioning are you using yoru signature now, we're questioning is it right to have it at all. The answer, as the rules are now, no, it is not ok. Whether you're using it or not *PEOPLE CAN STILL SEE IT* You are, if nothing else, held to the same exact standard we are; more often to a higher standard. Being an administrator and (what at least appears to be) an employee of AGD, your actions reflect on the entire moderation staff and on AGD as a whole. By leaving your signature as is you're setting a double standard and saying the rules don't apply to you, but they do to everyone else.

[RobAGD]

Ok once again I will cover this AGAIN.

My sig does not break ANY rules. It maybe in poor taste, it may not be Black and white good or bad but I put it there for a reason.

Part of the reason we put limit on sig is that no one would turn the damn things off so you got the 800x600 imgae at the end of ever post buy some people.

I manually turn my off on almost all of my post. Again I turn it off for a reason. I am held to the same basic rules as everyone else. Heck I have had to remove mod statue as punishment to a few mods over the years because of things they have done. I have gotten emails from tom to tone down my sig contents.

I do not work for AGD, I help them run thier online forum. I folow the RULES that Tom has layed out for us. We follow the rules as he set them out.

We have many other things to do here and in our own lives that we should not have to explain why ever person that get a ban is banned. Take it that its a simple matter of the fact they screwed up.

Suck it up and serve your time, pissing and moaning about it it's going to change anything. Hell people that know me well enough know that the harder you push me for something the less likey you will be to get it, even if I was inclined to give it back or remove it before hand.

I have to say that on the 10-15 forums I am on I dont see a ONE that has to go into the deatils of user bans like we do on AO, I think it a sign the people here think way too much of them selves and thier value to the boards.

Its a damn forum, not real life, nothing that happen on this little box will truely effect you in the real world get over it, learn some maners and grow up, the world does not revolve around you and your little clic of friends.

btw - this isnt directed to any one user but to a whole lot in general. Sack up guys

-R

[SpecialBlend2786]

This post is more or less addressed to RobAGD... so if I use "you", everyone knows who I'm referring to:



I agree. Just because a mod is aggrivated because a user is doing something they don't like, doesn't mean they should be banned for it. I haven't gone to the other forums, so I may be off base here, but I haven't seen hoards of "BRING BACK LPB!" threads... so to me, this just seems like something that's annoying you. If you think the LPB is too off topic for this thread, then either lock the thread or split the posts.



Again, I agree. Personally, I think it *is* our business, at least to an extent to know what's going on. Do we need to know exact intricate details? No, asking "what happened?" and wanting to know what's happening on the forum we support I think is perfectly within reason.

I think all of us got way too off-topic on this whole thread. This thread was created to see if it would be a problem to have RobAGD's old signature as a current signature, not a "Free LPB!" thread. If the answer to the question is "Having it as your signature is not an offense, using it as your signature is", then say it. If I'm hardpressed to find it in one of your posts, does that make it ok to have? I mean, if that's the case, perhaps I should go back to my first posts and start editing them, inserting porn and such. I mean, it's ok, right? No, obviously not. Does that mean I can have porn in my signature, as long as I don't use it? I hope not. We're not questioning are you using yoru signature now, we're questioning is it right to have it at all. The answer, as the rules are now, no, it is not ok. Whether you're using it or not *PEOPLE CAN STILL SEE IT* You are, if nothing else, held to the same exact standard we are; more often to a higher standard. Being an administrator and (what at least appears to be) an employee of AGD, your actions reflect on the entire moderation staff and on AGD as a whole. By leaving your signature as is you're setting a double standard and saying the rules don't apply to you, but they do to everyone else.

right on the money.

and sorry RobAGD i missed that first post too

[1stdeadeye]

Call ahead and let Mom know you're late?

Wrong, but

[SCpoloRicker]

Ok once again I will cover this AGAIN.

My sig does not break ANY rules. It maybe in poor taste, it may not be Black and white good or bad but I put it there for a reason

-bolded by SCpoloRicker



O.K. So what's the million dollar answer?


btw, I agree that the easiest answer would have been for noone to piss and moan; and this would eventually lead to re-instatement for all involved.

Also, a lot of the initial flamewars of a month ago directed at two specific younger members was at least tacitly approved of by some of the moderators.