NEW Smart Parts Midlevel Low Price Marker

[SOAD8789]

ooo that wrath is gonna have the same quality control issues that dragun/odyssey did. That gun is made in taiwan...like dragun/oddysey guns. big quality control issues there.

as for the ion, we can wait and see. big competition for the 05 BKO. The ion will probably be more successful, because SP is going to market the hell out of it, where ICD will sit there with a great gun for 350 dollars, and do almost no advertising. the BKO is going to be better though, and if i had to choose, ICD would get my vote.

[SpecialBlend2786]

ooo that wrath is gonna have the same quality control issues that dragun/odyssey did. That gun is made in taiwan...like dragun/oddysey guns. big quality control issues there.

as for the ion, we can wait and see. big competition for the 05 BKO. The ion will probably be more successful, because SP is going to market the hell out of it, where ICD will sit there with a great gun for 350 dollars, and do almost no advertising. the BKO is going to be better though, and if i had to choose, ICD would get my vote.

DOH! it looks so great though


YEha, the 05 BKO should be awesome, and a great deal as always. Looks like another SP/ICD battle

[tony3]

Why, exactly, can't he love AGD? He has to agree with your opinions about what the best guns are? Let the man like what he likes, for whatever reasons he feels like giving.

Love AGD all you want, but just don't diss a marker that you have never tried and think since it isn't from AGD it sucks.

[txaggie08]

steelrat, Its not the this gone ima rguing my point over. I know absolutley nothing about the actualy quality of this gun, and neither does anyone else on this forum in all likelyhood, I was arguing the point that something being cheap does not preclude it being of equal quality.

Yes companys DO manufacture goods cheaper and compete with themselves. It prootes spending on the "higher end " product. Look at what gm does ( or did with- the reason they stopped was more realted to age than price competitevness) with the j-body platform. The sunfire and the cavalier are the SAME car, but the sunfire is hyped up more, and usualy priced higher. the idea of ontroducing a low price high quality marker is actualy an extremely intelligent idea. not only are you going to sell high volume at lower prices, your going to draw in a crowd focused on getting the "better gun". Theoreticaly, if the cheaper gun could be made cost effeciently (wich god knows polymers are soooo much cheaper than metal), and a profit could be turned, you win on both fronts. That is basic economics also. Of course this whole thing may be just a dumping scheme to drive other maufacturers like icd into shutting down........unscroupulous but a possibility.

Does anyone know what this "plastic" body is made out of? if its what it looks like, its a polymer. if it is in reality its just as strong if not tougher than the metal. look at the glock. i mean im not a huge fan of "combat tupperware"(sorry i thought it was a funny knickname), but ive never seen strength issues with the handle(not under normal usage anyway.) I know people are freaking because its "plastic" but from an engineering stand point, the aluminum realy may not be necessary. if your realy worried about the strength of the body, build it from carbon fiber. They build everything from airplanes to freaking engines out of it(yes they are working on the concept.....heat is there big enemy). im curious to see what this "plastic" gun is actualy made out of.....(btw if someone know illd appreciate being told )

[trains are bad]

It's made out of plastic.

People make the mistake of thinking the glock is made out of something else besides plastic. It's really plastic. Thinking up some expensive name like 'polymer' is for marketing. Polymer vs. plastic is a distinction without a differenece. It's good quality plastic, engeneered to fit the application and stuff, but it's plastic.

I'm not saying the ION is good, but I have a $900 HK handgun made of plastic. In many cases there is no advantage to making a paintball marker out of aluminum except for shiny-thing syndrom that paintballers are so good at displaying.

[Ydna]

The body is NOT made from plastic.
It's made from aluminum and has plastic "milling" on the outside. The black sections you see in the picture are the "plastic" pieces around the colored aluminum.

[BD_Paintball]

Love AGD all you want, but just don't diss a marker that you have never tried and think since it isn't from AGD it sucks.

i have been saying that for some time now and i just got flamed so that is why i didnt say it in this thread. there is no reason why someone should not like a gun just because AGD didnt make it. im sure its a good gun for a great price. g/j tony3. props to u

[SAW]

Nero's quote comes to mind.

[txaggie08]

actualy on a molecular level polymer isnt realy what we think of as plastic.....

its close, but its realy not. I guess you might cal it a "type" of plastic, but the tensile strength of a real polymer is incredibly higher then what most people call plastic. alot of polymers arent even wholy peroleum based id understand it correctly

[shank the wiggles]

Smart Parts might get a lot of hate from people but I believe that this is the smartest thing they have ever done and they will make some fat lumps of cash off of it.