What's The Most Over-Priced Paintball "Necessity"?

[Automaggin2]

Most over priced is definetly Paintballs. I don't mind paying alot of money for paintball products as long as they last a long time but I do dream of the day when you can get a decent case of paint for $20.

I really dont think paint is that bad. If youhave been playing for awhile like me, you'll definatly remember paying $85 for a case of 2500 proballs. I get cases of blaze for 30 a case now, thats not bad at all. Paintballs used to be so expensive

[Lorenz0666]

I really dont think paint is that bad. If youhave been playing for awhile like me, you'll definatly remember paying $85 for a case of 2500 proballs. I get cases of blaze for 30 a case now, thats not bad at all. Paintballs used to be so expensive

its still that bad, you go feild the kill you on prices, CPX is 90 a case, anything under 50 starts to drop in quilty

[BlackHalo]

Videogame business model doesn't work for this

MS gets approx $20 per game you buy minus all the production costs (3rd party developer) * Average # of games someone buys a year * installed userbase = a LOT

Only if you buy lots of consumables and have a large installed userbase does that model work. Maybe a rebuild kit every 3-5 outings with a couple of million markers out there.

Lorenz0666 - When I started, paint was 10-30c a ball. Hell it cost less to go out to a shooting range to plink off some 9mm rounds.

It's even hard to find rebuild kits (i.e. 90 durometer AGD O-rings) on ebay for a reasonable amount. Can't someone buy all the AGD O-rings in bulk and assemble kits that can be sold for $5 shipped? Yes, AGD does this, but the price is just really high. I can't believe that the wholesale cost is really high on the O-rings.

Here's an idea: Why not give away markers at cost (like an Xbox) and then make all your money on the extras (like Xbox games)?

If my new Tac-One only cost me $200, I could easily justify a $20 O-ring kit every year.

If no one else solves this problem I just might, as I now have 6 automags and access to really good plumbing supply stores.

Anyone know who makes the O-rings for AGD? I'll go there first.

[FallNAngel]

It's even hard to find rebuild kits (i.e. 90 durometer AGD O-rings) on ebay for a reasonable amount. Can't someone buy all the AGD O-rings in bulk and assemble kits that can be sold for $5 shipped?[/b]

Get me a list of the o-rings and I'll look into it

[Jeffy-CanCon]

It's even hard to find rebuild kits (i.e. 90 durometer AGD O-rings) on ebay for a reasonable amount. Can't someone buy all the AGD O-rings in bulk and assemble kits that can be sold for $5 shipped? Yes, AGD does this, but the price is just really high. I can't believe that the wholesale cost is really high on the O-rings.

Here's an idea: Why not give away markers at cost (like an Xbox) and then make all your money on the extras (like Xbox games)?

If my new Tac-One only cost me $200, I could easily justify a $20 O-ring kit every year.

If no one else solves this problem I just might, as I now have 6 automags and access to really good plumbing supply stores.

Anyone know who makes the O-rings for AGD? I'll go there first.

Retail store owners I've talked to say that the marker prices are about as low as they can go. There is very little profit on marker sales. They make their money on aftermarket parts(3-400% mark-up), and paint.


Re: o-rings

Do all you guys realize that you are on an AGD-owned forum, talking about ways to undercut that company? A company that, theoretically, you all support and want to stay in business? $20 every year or two is cheap maintenance.

[abunkerer]

its still that bad, you go feild the kill you on prices, CPX is 90 a case, anything under 50 starts to drop in quilty

cpx is the worst. play Badlandz, 25$ all day field fee and air fills & bring your own paint..get on their team list and it's 15$ byop.

most expensive thing: when a field charges for air fills, that is the biggest unnecessary rip ever!

[Chronobreak]

dont wanna pay $90 for a case ? THEN DONT GO THERE! show them you wont stand for that.
by going your saying its ok stick it in the rear please.

there are a # of stores localy here that sell nitroduck for $40 a case..best deal but i know everyone isnt privvy to such an offer.

i find entry fees to be the killer for me..msot the time

paint $ is easy ot scrounge up...but another $20 for entry and all day air onyop of that.. i say if i buy a case from a field it should be all day fills free adn entry free. ex at soemthing like $90 a case..


btw if your going through an o-ring kit every year thats TOO much...maybe every 3-5 years...
infact the model you proposed would be incredibly bad since agd markers are built soo good they dont need regular maintenance or upgrades.

[Vanced]

I don't mind paying for durable goods... and even things like O-rings, Macroline and such... because thoose pretty much last if you take care of it...

It's Paint and Air...(and batteries) Come on... Expecially if the field has their own compresser... anything expendable...


We dump countless $$$$ into our gear and still have to shell out $$$ every time we want to play...But hey... As long as we continue to bargan shop online for our gear instead of buying it at a premium at the pro shop/field... they gotta pay to stay in buisness somehow...

The only thing that always amazes me... is how much paint & air costs varies from place to place...

But hey... I paid A DOLLAR A BALL ... back in the day once... $10 for a filled 10 round tube... so I can't complain too much I guess... but I think that lasted me an hour too... so maybe I can...

Paintball may be a lot of things... but I don't think cheep has ever been one...

[automikey]

O-rings

Many good points have been made about the O-rings and AGD. As far as supporting the company, I just switched from Tippmanns to Automags. In the past few months I bought a new Tac-One, a used 68 and 4 used micromags, so in order to rebuild them I need 5 kits. Maybe that's why I'm frustrated about the price.

Also, I had heard that they might need to be rebuilt every year, which I suspected/hoped was false.

Regarding undercutting the company, I have spent and will spend a lot of money on automag products, and the only complaint I think I ever made was the price of O-rings. I wish AGD would just lower the price and settle this for all of us. For most of their products the prices are reasonable and the quality is always outstanding.

[magsRus]

selling paint is how stores/fields make money so i cant complain about that, i dont like the high prices of pants, and macroline hoses + connections.

[Scott Hudnall]

AGD parts kits overpriced???? huh????

Since when are these overpriced? Hardly......

I think they are fairly priced. Listen......there's plenty of sellers on Ebay selling authentic AGD parts kits with a bottle of Gold Cup oil for $15. That's very reasonable.

Plus.....you rebuild your 'mag how often? If you are like me, you have a new parts kit in your gear bag, along with a Plano box which contains multiple new o-rings from past parts kits, along with some extra used o-rings from rebuilds you've done in the past.

2 years ago I bought a 'mag on ebay that obviously hadn't been touched in.....I'm guessing....5+ years. They seller was an old tournament player from here in the midwest (certain I traded paint with him back in the day) who had put the 'mag away after his last time playing and hadn't touched it. When I got it, I basically took the valve apart, checked to make sure the orings were all there, lubed them up, aired up the gun....and it shot without any problems at all. Dang...it even had the old style on/off, but it was so smooth with no drop-off that i've just left it in the gun.

What needs to come down in price is PAINT. yeah, I remember when we would order paint wholesale for our paintball business and felt happy to get it delivered at an end cost of $75/case. But now there's much more competition in the industry/paintball manufacturers. They're being made overseas in Korea, etc, and you WILL see the cost take a dive. it's been edging down nicely the past several years.....it's time to see it hit rock bottom cheap.

BTW....field paint only is not the only route to build a successful field/business. IMO, Open play days should be BYOP, with a reasonalbe entry/air fee. As the owner, you find out that it's a cash cow and you don't have to put out the $$ to order/store/transport a bunch of paint.

[FutureMagOwner]

lol i have had my emag for 2 years now and i havent had to change a single o ring on it yet

[GT]

barrels and feed tubes

[ojhspyro89]

I say masks. A piece o plastic with a lense and a stretchy strap for over 100 bucks. I mean geeze how can the same materials in an old brass eagle mask basically cost 100 more just molded different. Its a mask.

[skife]

drops, most of them dont take much machining but when stores are selling them for $50 for just a drop without an asa.... thats robbery.

also i dont like paying for HPA but sometimes you have to because the field doesn't have a pump.


paint is reasonable. i pay $60 a case at mayhem for diablo blaze i think.
if i played at some guy's field (kinda homemade but still organised) i could pay $44 for a case of viper venom.