Paintball and firearm laws

[Beemer]

The only way a paintball is a dangerous is if it contacts the eye or ear.

This is not true Hitech. Put your EPD on and draw a line all the way around it down to about the 2nd or 3rd vertebra. This would be all of the neck and head that aint protected. All soft tissue. Dont let yourself get back doored. in those areas. Think blunt force and trama and bruising and internal hemorrhaging. A 3.18g paintball at 300 fps = 13.2 joules, at 275fps =11.17 joules. 1 shot right above your first vertebra could very well do some damage.

[hitech]

This is not true Hitech. Put your EPD on and draw a line all the way around it down to about the 2nd or 3rd vertebra. This would be all of the neck and head that aint protected.

Well....since I wear a baseball hat on backwards it is protected...

All soft tissue. Don't let yourself get back doored. in those areas. Think blunt force and trauma and bruising and internal hemorrhaging. A 3.18g paintball at 300 fps = 13.2 joules, at 275fps =11.17 joules. 1 shot right above your first vertebra could very well do some damage.

If that is true, the requirements for EPDs need to change. Until then I'll be sure and wear that hat.

[VFX_Fenix]

CA law classifies a Paintball gun as an AirGun and is not subject to Firearm laws (within CA anyway). So who wants dinner?

[Lohman446]

Not to sound umm but EPD?

[Number13]

Wisconsin Statutes

In Wisconsin:
941.297(1)
(1) In this section, "look-alike firearm" means any imitation of any original firearm that was manufactured, designed and produced after December 31, 1897, including and limited to toy guns, water guns, replica nonguns, and air-soft guns firing nonmetallic projectiles. "Look-alike firearm" does not include any imitation, nonfiring, collector replica of an antique firearm developed prior to 1898, or any traditional beebee, paint-ball or pellet-firing air gun that expels a projectile through the force of air pressure.
{Only explicit mention of a paintball marker I've ever found in Wisconsin state law}

A dangerous weapon? No:
939.22(10)
(10) "Dangerous weapon" means any firearm, whether loaded or unloaded; any device designed as a weapon and capable of producing death or great bodily harm; any electric weapon, as defined in s. 941.295 (4); or any other device or instrumentality which, in the manner it is used or intended to be used, is calculated or likely to produce death or great bodily harm.

939.22(14)
(14) "Great bodily harm" means bodily injury which creates a substantial risk of death, or which causes serious permanent disfigurement, or which causes a permanent or protracted loss or impairment of the function of any bodily member or organ or other serious bodily injury.
{Unless you're using it on someone not wearing a mask, you will be using it within the method it is "intended to be used" so as not to cause "great bodily harm." Please note that if your adversary insists on only wearing goggles or inadequate protection, you can still be held liable for damages done to him if you shoot him with a paintball and cause injury. By not restricting your use of the paintball marker to an individual wearing proper safety equipment, you use it outside of the manner it is "intended to be used" in. Hence, don't play with stupid people because you will suffer as well for their stupidity.}

And if pulled over by a cop:
968.25
968.25 Search during temporary questioning. When a law enforcement officer has stopped a person for temporary questioning pursuant to s. 968.24 and reasonably suspects that he or she or another is in danger of physical injury, the law enforcement officer may search such person for weapons or any instrument or article or substance readily capable of causing physical injury and of a sort not ordinarily carried in public places by law abiding persons. If the law enforcement officer finds such a weapon or instrument, or any other property possession of which the law enforcement officer reasonably believes may constitute the commission of a crime, or which may constitute a threat to his or her safety, the law enforcement officer may take it and keep it until the completion of the questioning, at which time the law enforcement officer shall either return it, if lawfully possessed, or arrest the person so questioned.
{They can take your paintball marker during questioning, but provided you legally own it (and you do not need to be 18 to own a paintball marker in Wisconsin) then they have to give it back at the end of the questioning. }

[hitech]

Not to sound umm but EPD?

Eye/Ear Protection Device.

First I heard that used was here...

[Lohman446]

Thread resurection - considering the invents in Berlin over the past weekend any new thoughts?

[Frizzle Fry]

Thread resurection - considering the invents in Berlin over the past weekend any new thoughts?

In a court of law, there are really only two paintball markers that could (not just legally, but reasonably by a judge) be considered firearms.

One is the Tippmann C3, which dissapeared not just because it stunk but also because of legal issues. It ignited propane and used the pressure from the mini-explosion to propell a paintball forward. While this was slower than, say, a hammer striking a firing pin and igniting powder, or even a flint sparking powder, it still meets the legal definition of a firearm.

The other is a canadian marker called the Mod85 that has been somewhat forgotten by time. It was magazine fed, and had brass & plastic shells which held a shotgun primer and a .375cal paintball... Due to its enormous resemblance to more traditional firearms (and yes, this one has actually been through at least one court case and IS a firearm) it never took off. It was actually a training device, but it made it's way to fields where it was often banned for noise and the fact that some models (but not all) could go fully automatic.



*edit: If you've ever built a Potato cannon that uses ingited hairspray or something similar as a propellant, you haven't made a "firearm" you've made an infernal machine... Which is also in most cases illegal especially if you do something stupid with it.

[Beemer]

Laws or Rules?

Not sure what they are, over there for sure. Just what I saw on another Forum.

Set Max FPS, no full auto, no ramping, one shot one pull. Sound familar?