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  • Bob_da_Splatman
    Registered User
    • Aug 2004
    • 250

    #1

    how much more can a...

    How much more can a 68/5k hold more than a 68/3k .....then compare a 68/3k and a 68/4500...please????? im at loss with this
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  • CaliMagFan

    #2
    i read somewhere that 3000 psi was like 10 shots per CU... and 4500 psi was like 15 shots per CU... but 5k... i dont know..

    now where do you expect to get 5k fills is the real question to be asked..

    -kyro

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    • kurama
      Registered User
      • Dec 2004
      • 189

      #3
      These are not accurate since some markers are gas hogs, and some very efficient. It is, however, very accurate for comparing tank capacity.

      3000 psi is a rule-of-thumb of 10 balls per ci.
      4500 psi is 15 balls per ci
      5000 psi is 15 balls per ci

      Why is 5k the same? Nobody fills 5000 psi and there's no point in doing so, and safety rules/insurance don't generalluy allow for 5k fills anyways. Having 5000 psi is for:

      Marketing. You pay more for 5k psi.
      Allowing for some overfill. If the guy filling your tank messes up and fills too much, its no biggie.

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      • Evil1
        Registered User
        • Nov 2003
        • 979

        #4
        I've had a 4.5K tank for going on 3 years now and I don't think I've ever had a full fill. I think the highest I ever saw it was around 4200 psi until it cooled then it was like around 3800 after that.

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        • Skoad
          Registered User
          • Feb 2002
          • 3265

          #5
          4.5k tank is 50% bigger than a 3k tank.

          help any?

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          • teufelhunden
            Registered Bamf
            • Jul 2003
            • 2691

            #6
            Originally posted by kurama
            Allowing for some overfill. If the guy filling your tank messes up and fills too much, its no biggie.

            It's no biggie if a 4.5k tank is filled to 5k. A fiberwrapped 4.5k tank was taken to in excess of 17k PSI before it burst. However, the burst discs would open up long before that ever happened.
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            • krusty
              AGD,ICD,CCM & CCI (Gunho!)
              • Mar 2004
              • 1400

              #7
              Now how many shots will a X valve get off a 68/3000 & a 68/4500 average?
              :hail: AGD :hail: CCI :hail:

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              • Flow_Tech
                AKA Couponqueen89
                • Jun 2003
                • 1571

                #8
                Originally posted by krusty
                Now how many shots will a X valve get off a 68/3000 & a 68/4500 average?
                i donjt know abotu a 3k,but i got a hopper and 4 pods off of my dynaflow 68/45 filled to 4k,pumping out 1100PSI for RT bounce.
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                • Bob_da_Splatman
                  Registered User
                  • Aug 2004
                  • 250

                  #9
                  sweet guys thanks for the lesson and i appreciate your help......so a 90/4500 is the equivalent of a 114/3k????.....right ?
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                  • Lohman446
                    Useful posts: 7
                    • Jun 2003
                    • 9315

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Bob_da_Splatman
                    sweet guys thanks for the lesson and i appreciate your help......so a 90/4500 is the equivalent of a 114/3k????.....right ?

                    For simple ideas on how much air, though I have no clue what measurement it would be in try multiplying the figures out - this will give you an idea when comparing tanks

                    90 x 4.5 = 405 units
                    114 x 3.0 = 342 units

                    The 90/45 holds more air than the 114/3

                    However, not all places can/will fill to 4500 PSI so you need to take into consideration what you will actually be filled to. I used a 88/45 on my mag for a long time and seemed to get a lot of shots off it (like that precision - a lot of). I don't recall exact numbers. If you are playing somewhere that has all day air you may want to look at smaller tanks, depending on your preference.
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                    • athomas
                      Of course it works-its AGD
                      • Jan 2002
                      • 8039

                      #11
                      How much more is there in a 68-4500 tank than a 68-3000 tank?

                      Given that most guns operate on 800psi input, there is 2200psi of usable air in the 68-3000 tank. There is 3700psi of usable air in the 68-4500 tank. That means there is 68% more capacity in the 68-4500 than the 68-3000.
                      Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.

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                      • ColdFuzion
                        The one and only AO-MS'er
                        • Nov 2004
                        • 173

                        #12
                        The difference in all the tanks he asked about is pressure. They're the same in size. I personally use a 68/45 adjustable tank. Where I normally play only fills to 3k, but I play tournaments at different fields that fill to 4500, so I like that extra air. That person who said that 3k tanks get 10 shots per CI, and that 4500 tanks get 15 shots per CI was totally correct. On all the tanks I've had, that theory was within 10 shots of how many I actually got.

                        -Cold

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                        • Lohman446
                          Useful posts: 7
                          • Jun 2003
                          • 9315

                          #13
                          Originally posted by athomas
                          How much more is there in a 68-4500 tank than a 68-3000 tank?

                          Given that most guns operate on 800psi input, there is 2200psi of usable air in the 68-3000 tank. There is 3700psi of usable air in the 68-4500 tank. That means there is 68% more capacity in the 68-4500 than the 68-3000.
                          Ohh... good point on input pressure of the marker and useable capacity of the tanks, but I would argue that MOST markers can go much lower in the tank than 800PSI
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                          • Thordic
                            AFTICA
                            • May 2001
                            • 5986

                            #14
                            Here it is by weight. Actual shots per tank will vary.

                            47ci 3000PSI tank: 7.0 ounces of air
                            68ci 3000PSI tank: 10.1 ounces of air
                            88ci 3000PSI tank: 13.1 ounces of air
                            114ci 3000PSI tank: 17.0 ounces of air

                            47ci 4500PSI tank: 10.5 ounces of air
                            68ci 4500PSI tank: 15.1 ounces of air
                            88ci 4500PSI tank: 19.7 ounces of air
                            114ci 4500PSI tank: 25.5 ounces of air

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                            • athomas
                              Of course it works-its AGD
                              • Jan 2002
                              • 8039

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Lohman446
                              Ohh... good point on input pressure of the marker and useable capacity of the tanks, but I would argue that MOST markers can go much lower in the tank than 800PSI
                              Yes, you are correct. The percentage difference would change depending on the lowest usable amount of pressure.
                              Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.

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