Rebound, Ramping???

[dolphin1823]

[peewee]

I'm in the same boat as you totally confused about this. As I see it an RT should be legal now.

[andreb]

Rebound lowers the debounce filter as you start to pull faster so it starts to make teh gun bounce more. Ramping adds shots "on purpose". None are tournament legal outside the PSP but it is not the same as RT.

[magman007]

no, rebound is just sp's way of saying ramping. thats all it is. you can be pulling 5 bps and shooting 15 at the cap.

[68magOwner]

SP says rebound lowrers debounce, but, anyone who has it knows that the trigger could be 200 lb (not bounce-able) but, it will take off after 4bps so, yeah, its the same as ramping, no, it is not legal, anywhere, ever (because it is not capped at 15bps)

[FallNAngel]

SP says rebound lowrers debounce, but, anyone who has it knows that the trigger could be 200 lb (not bounce-able) but, it will take off after 4bps so, yeah, its the same as ramping, no, it is not legal, anywhere, ever (because it is not capped at 15bps)

A) Just because the trigger is stiff doesn't mean it can't bounce. They're referring to electrical bounce, not mechanical.
B) Actually, it can be capped by setting the pulse times correctly.

[sabrefanpc]

the reason the tipman rt was banned is b/c it fires on the pull and again at release. for a mech, the rule is one pull, one shot, so tipman rts have never technically been tourny legal

[Korrosion]

the reason the tipman rt was banned is b/c it fires on the pull and again at release. for a mech, the rule is one pull, one shot, so tipman rts have never technically been tourny legal

No it does not. It is one pull one shot. It is stupidly easy to sweetspot ala z-man with his retro valves.

[sabrefanpc]

zman used a mag with a rt (ReTro) valve

tipmans have an rt (Response Trigger)

[shatter_storm]

the reason the tipman rt was banned is b/c it fires on the pull and again at release. for a mech, the rule is one pull, one shot, so tipman rts have never technically been tourny legal

The reason the RT's are not legal in tournament play is because most rules state that a trigger pull consists of a pull and a release. With a RT system, you are only pulling the trigger, not releasing it - thus, not allowed.

[MarkM]

Rebound is a newer version of Turbo it may well drop the filters to make bounce but the result is still more shots than trigger pulls

Ramping can take two forms. One is adding shots. One is increasing the dwell which will increase velocity.

For tournament legality you have to cut through what the makers tell you and ask the simple question will I be allowed to use the marker using these "features" This same answer is also confused as what the PSP allows is different to the NPPL and in turn the CFOA what you need is a board that will allow you to take part in all of these tournaments simply by switching modes to the one legal for that event. Currently there is only one option for this and that is the aftermarket board made by TAG called the Predator.
The only way around this otherwise is a different board for each tournament event.
WDP don't have the capped modes nor do Smart Parts nor do NPS and nor do DYE (all of these comments are meant in that currently they don't). Admittedly it is the aftermarket boards that have forced these new rulings and unfortuantely some aftermarket boards were too good at what they were doing so that forced the issue, trouble is the Main dealers (for want of a better term) don't have the boards to perform within all of these rules.

[Korrosion]

Currently there is only one option for this and that is the aftermarket board made by TAG called the Predator.

I think Tadao boards can do this, at least the newest one can. Don't hold me to it though.

[Korrosion]

zman used a mag with a rt (ReTro) valve

tipmans have an rt (Response Trigger)

I dont care what they call it. Both guns can return the trigger with more force then takes to pull it. Still only fires one shot per pull and release. Tippman uses a ram, AGD uses valve design.

[tony3]

I think Tadao boards can do this, at least the newest one can. Don't hold me to it though.

You are correct, the new tadao musashi 3 coding has illegal and legal modes. The new virtue chip from advantage pb also has legal and illegal modes.

[MarkM]

I think Tadao boards can do this, at least the newest one can. Don't hold me to it though.

A Predator can be installed in ANY electro The thread is about modes not specific markers as such.

http://www.tagsportz.com/sales/Predlock.htm