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  • REDRT
    Mags, Y use anything else
    • Apr 2004
    • 1854

    #16
    Originally posted by Target Practice
    That's a cowardly, chickencrap way to think.
    It is just an old saying, chill

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    • minimag03
      WVU paintball #19
      • Dec 2003
      • 2214

      #17
      Originally posted by REDRT
      Might be were TK is right now. Over at SP World Headquarters. Can't beat them join them...
      Tom wouldn't do that. If he told us he is taking time away from paintball, then he is.
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      • REDRT
        Mags, Y use anything else
        • Apr 2004
        • 1854

        #18
        Originally posted by minimag03
        Tom wouldn't do that. If he told us he is taking time away from paintball, then he is.
        How do you know? It might be all a hoax. He is kind of a skidish guy that doesn't take to confortation. If he believed it would help his company to help SP without conflict. I think he might just fib about his where abouts because of his issues with confortations. Just a theory.

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        • minimag03
          WVU paintball #19
          • Dec 2003
          • 2214

          #19
          Originally posted by REDRT
          How do you know? It might be all a hoax. He is kind of a skidish guy that doesn't take to confortation. If he believed it would help his company to help SP without conflict. I think he might just fib about his where abouts because of his issues with confortations. Just a theory.
          1) Tom will not lie to us.
          2) SP wouldn't give up what they won in court for Tom. They are most likely making more money now then ever and they don't need Tom's help.
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          • REDRT
            Mags, Y use anything else
            • Apr 2004
            • 1854

            #20
            Originally posted by minimag03
            1) Tom will not lie to us.
            2) SP wouldn't give up what they won in court for Tom. They are most likely making more money now then ever and they don't need Tom's help.
            1. He isn't a saint. LOL

            2. still the shocker is looking more like a mag every year. One has the right to wonder.

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            • minimag03
              WVU paintball #19
              • Dec 2003
              • 2214

              #21
              Originally posted by REDRT
              2. still the shocker is looking more like a mag every year. One has the right to wonder.
              Then Tom must have helped ICD. The Freestyle's blow forward bolt and single tube design is a lot more like a Automag then a Shocker.
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              • REDRT
                Mags, Y use anything else
                • Apr 2004
                • 1854

                #22
                Maybe Tom got out with a big bundle of money and Dave is the hatchet man parting what is left away. Liquidating the company.

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                • Target Practice
                  irc.zirc.org:6667 = chat!
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 3180

                  #23
                  Originally posted by REDRT
                  Maybe Tom got out with a big bundle of money and Dave is the hatchet man parting what is left away. Liquidating the company.
                  Maybe you're paranoid. My first post stands.


                  "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." --Henry Louis Mencken.

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                  • minimag03
                    WVU paintball #19
                    • Dec 2003
                    • 2214

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Target Practice
                    Maybe you're paranoid. My first post stands.
                    Why do we not know anything?
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                    • Lohman446
                      Useful posts: 7
                      • Jun 2003
                      • 9315

                      #25
                      Originally posted by REDRT
                      Maybe Tom got out with a big bundle of money and Dave is the hatchet man parting what is left away. Liquidating the company.
                      You know how reasonable and logical of a conclusion that is. Considering that Dave bought the inventory, and the few posts we have seen have brought up questions about patents / etc. Not that I have thought about it at all

                      I think TK got out of paintball for risk analysis reasons. 1) Making an electro runs the risk of being sued and loosing profits you had worked hard to make 2) New markers and mass production made it harder to turn a good profit 3) Markers made n violation of ASTM standards (which to be "competetive" now it seems necessary) may leave the maker open to civil and criminal liabilities 4) TK is not as judgement proof as he was when AGD started and was cutting edge 5) It was becoming too political.

                      I think the risk was no longer worth the reward
                      "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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                      • REDRT
                        Mags, Y use anything else
                        • Apr 2004
                        • 1854

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Lohman446
                        You know how reasonable and logical of a conclusion that is. Considering that Dave bought the inventory, and the few posts we have seen have brought up questions about patents / etc. Not that I have thought about it at all
                        Thanks. I've been involved with companies that closed in such away. I'm not totally nuts! AGD has been still for some time, the old inventory is been sold out. The key guy just walks away. To each his own, but it sure seems alot like the now defunk companies I have worked for in the past.

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                        • hitech
                          Not a shedder of vortices
                          • Nov 2001
                          • 4775

                          #27
                          Originally posted by minimag03
                          I want AGD to get a STD and see what comes out.



                          STD....



                          Hey Hitech your starting to sound like me! - AGD
                          Hitech is the man.... :eek: - Blennidae
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                          • j.storm
                            Maranatha!
                            • Jun 2004
                            • 109

                            #28
                            Well, if, and I stress IF, TK did decide to work for SP (or already was and had a hand in the Shockers), I might actually consider buying their products again.....well, a shocker at any rate, and that's a big, BIG maybe (would be painful to my bank account don't ya know). It really is a "who cares?" situation anyway. The man has a right to do what he wants, right?

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                            • REDRT
                              Mags, Y use anything else
                              • Apr 2004
                              • 1854

                              #29
                              Originally posted by j.storm
                              Well, if, and I stress IF, TK did decide to work for SP (or already was and had a hand in the Shockers), I might actually consider buying their products again.....well, a shocker at any rate, and that's a big, BIG maybe (would be painful to my bank account don't ya know). It really is a "who cares?" situation anyway. The man has a right to do what he wants, right?
                              Sure Tom can do whatever he wants. It is AGD the company he left behind that concerns me. There is going to be a time where they will be forced to do something. The question is what will that be?

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                              • AGD
                                The man from AGD

                                • Oct 2000
                                • 5916

                                #30
                                First off, I am a pretty transparent guy known to speak my mind. If you think there is some dark side to me that is off doing something unusual your probably wrong.

                                Secondly, the fat lady has not sung yet.

                                AGD
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