R/T Custom outdated?

[MadPSIence]

I'm nervous about buying a mag. My reason... the R/T Pro is 6 years old. The only news is the lvl10 bolt and Xvalve .. both years old.

I like what I see about the R/T Pro ... and actually have one in my shopping cart at airgun.com but I just need to know this gun can keep up with new guns in terms of speed accuracy and overall quality..

I'm sure some of you can understand where I come from here. 6 years is a long time between new models.. a friggin long time.

The one I have in cart right now is a black CF ULE body with black intelliframe, lvl 10 and x valve + ULT... so basically everything maxxed except warpfeed which I don't want..

[warbeak2099]

The only reason AGD hasn't changed the overall design is that there's nothing to change. It's only flaw is average air efficiency and the inability to reach over 14bps legally. You're never going to change the efficiency problem so all you can do is get a bigger/higher capacity tank. As for speed, there are plenty upgrades available and more on the way. Why should AGD spend more green on r&d if there really isn't anything to improve?

[MadPSIence]

to rogue factor -

that doesn't answer my question...

and does that thing even come with a barrel? if you could get me some pics of what it looks like out of the box I may be interested.

[warbeak2099]

Ok I'll rephrase my answer. The only thing the RT Custom lacks in when compared to present markers is air efficiency and speed. Speed can be fixed with upgrades, efficiency cannot.

[MadPSIence]

1. how bad is the efficiency?

2. why only 14 bps? the R/T is advertised to be able to do 20.

as far as the

[MadPSIence]

The pics in the thread are actual pics of the marker, out of the box.

It comes with everything listed. Which does not include a barrel.

And I did answer your question....my answer to you was the RPG Paradigm...its not outdated and its an upgraded version of the current RT Pro.

RogueFactor -

how fast?

It seems interesting. All I need afterwards would be a barrel and my hopper + air correct?

do you have any videos or pictures of it complete? I just want to see how it would look.

[MadPSIence]

I imagine it would look a little like a devil mag complete.. right? So I was told in this thread that thre R/T Custom is limited to 14bps .. is that true? If so why and how come the Paradigm is not limited? Thanks for sharing this with me btw I never even knew the Paradigm existed but it looks interesting.

Also.. does it still operate like a mag as far as needing a high pressure tank? Also.. how does one adjust velocity? Thanks.

[dynastyfan]

the x valve has been sound tested at 32.5 bps if im not mistaken. BUT that was with the rt effect. now you can wait for the ptp pnue mag frame and you can have the speed and pull of an electro

[MadPSIence]

wow this gun is gettin very tempting... does the line ever get in the way? just curious, it's in a wierd spot.

I play recball too... will this gun do alright in the woods?

I guess lastly .. the foregrip makes me wanna puke.. what out there can I replace it with?

I still would really like to be able to see a picture of the gun with barrel and such on it just so I can know what it will look like. I like functional guns but i like hot functional guns even more.

[arsonpaintball06]

why dont you try going to www.themagsmith.com or www.pbgear.com and research the upgrades you can get for it. Also you can search the forums for pictures of complete setups w/ rogue parts.

[MadPSIence]

It sounds pretty interesting... but I know I can't order a gun that could look like anything. I was planning on buying something in the next week but I think I'll wait to see if any pictures of it pop up.

I've been deciding between a lot of guns lately.. everything from a modded A-5 to a System X NME to a Tactical Cocker and back to the R/T Custom.

One thing I like is the extra rails and such on the R/T .. it gives the gun a cool look. The Paradigm looks kind of naked without it.

[MadPSIence]

I don't need to mail other makers for pics because there are tons of pics out there already. Besides those guns come with barrels so naturally there are pics of them with barrels. btw System X even goes the extra mile and puts up pictures of the guns with everything on them at the System X forums.

NOT doggin you though.. I'm just really sketchy. I'm picky about purchases. Anyways I'll def think about it.. thanks for sharing this with me. It's def given me another option. If I like her you might hear from me next week.

[arsonpaintball06]

once again, take it upon yourself to use that little search button in the top right part of the screen that u have been neglecting so much. Plenty of pictures out there of rogues stuff. And i'd like to see you go on other forums and work out a deal w/ the person thats making the gun for you.

[MadPSIence]

the part outlined in red... it's the main visual dif I see between the Paradigm and others. What is it and can I get a paradigm with it?

[RRfireblade]

I just need to know this gun can keep up with new guns in terms of speed accuracy and overall quality..

Speed compared to 'todays' electronic markers....no, not a chance.

Accuracy...with good paint,air and barrel...sure,as accurate as any other in that price range.

Quality....Yup, as good or better than many in the price range.

Keep in mind this is a Mechanical Mag, much like a Mechanical Autococker the speed is going to limited dramatically by the triggers pull weight and length.