Cussing+Bonus Balling+$1000 setups=???

[The Action Figure]

we both live in greenville U?

[Python14]

I'll be honest. I am a hothead on the field. Anyone can tell you that off the field I'd never start a fight or get angry (hell, for the 6 months I've been here at school, only one person has witnessed me getting truely mad). BUT, once I'm on the field, it's different. Once I walk off the field, I'm fine and will apologize to people up and down. But on the field, I'm a jerk.


BUT, I don't bonus ball. I only confront people who I know can take it. I don't cuss a whole lot. And most of the time I just clinch my fists and/or throw pods.

[CKY_Alliance]

Charleston/summerville.

[mobsterboy]

Greenville, but we play at Upstate Paintball in Duncan, SC
we're going next saturday, so if you wanna meet us there

[matt-o]

Haha, funny, considering 90% of paintball players are rec-ballers.

yeah, but they arent 'ballas if you get my drift (pbn crowd)

and i have to say that i swear alot while paintballing but i never bonus people or get in thair face or anything. its usually just a F###!! after i get shot out or somehting. not good but its self directed. overall i would say that im not one of the jerks of paintball.

[Carbon]

wow, im suprised about how many people corrected me. Its a joke people, lighten up. Its hard to post on AO without 50 people pointing out every little flaw in your logic. Let me go to me field at count out every single person and write out a correct percentage so you guys can sleep at night knowing that everything i said was 100% accurate

In my experience, thats all I see now. I live in chicago, and its ufll of good players but alot of fields that i attend are full of people with nice setups and bad attitudes. Now it may differ with you because you might play fields attended mostly by recballers, but this is my experience so lay off and stop being so anal about everything

you ougta know man. the default vibe on AO it seems is "seriou/more seriouss disscusion" gotta have those sarcastic smileys ready unless you wanna get jumped on. that how it is, in this here parts

[gibby]

Apparently I 'bonus balled' some guy today.

I had no idea I did it. I was just snap shooting at his bunker. Then I see him start to walk off the field and I directed my attention elsewhere. Then he walks up the tape and starts cussing me out for shooting him after he called himself out.

It's possible he tried to call himself out and I snapped out and hit him with another stream, but I didn't see him raise his gun or hand or what not and I had no idea he was out until he started walking off.

Anyways, he was a real jerk about it, even after I apologized. I certainly didn't mean to shoot him more then once. I thought he was going to come throw some punches 'cause he just kept walking at me... Finally he let loose another stream of swear words and turned around.

It was funny. I was tempted to shoot him as he walked away but decided to just drop it. These 'tourny' type players really take rec ball a little too serious

LOL!! He probably walked away after he realized how big you really are. You're not small boy that's for sure!

Anyway, to me, image is a big part of paintball...everyone seems to want to be the most intimidating guy on the field. Unfortunately, when they can't back up their game with how much they spent, they resort to the profanity.

[cockerkiller68]

Under MI law you may not escalate the level of force used in an attack to defend yourself. Keep in mind that you are going to loose in civil court regardless should it come to it. I am not lawyer, under MI law I cannot give legal advice, I can issue my opinion - and that is all this is.

For instance - I can justify brandishment, felonious assault, homicide, or unlawful wounding (all crimes if not justifiable) if a reasonable person in my position would have perceived a reasonable threat of immenient and serious bodily harm or death.

If someone punches me and I have the reasonable ability to end the situation without a gun, I have a legal obligation to do just that.

If someone is flailing and trying to hit me and I have the reasonable ability to restrain them without injury or something that could harm them (hitting or kicking) then I have a legal obligation to do so.

I have a legal obligation to use the minimal force to end a threat that a reasonable person would perceive as prudent - so it depends how much of an imminent threat to your physical well being him shooting you would be perceived as by a reasonable person (ie jury).

haha, MI sucks!! lol

I think that if someone wants to swing at you, they open the door for a butt kickin!! That's just my opinion though.

[Lohman446]

haha, MI sucks!! lol

I think that if someone wants to swing at you, they open the door for a butt kickin!! That's just my opinion though.

I have been told by a criminal defense lawyer because I have a black belt in Kenpo that my duty to attempt less than lethal force or less violent forms of defense may extend further than that.

BTW - you missed the kicker. In nearly every state you have a lawful duty to retreat (unless in your home) if reasonably possible without risk of serious injury before you can respond with any type of force.

[cockerkiller68]

Thats what it says on paper...I know though that even here in Cali, most everyone I know has gotten into a defensive fight and whooped someone's *donkey* really badly. The police pretty much just arrest whoever threw the first blow or shove. I'm trained in something, but I don't usually tell people in case I use it. I guess if you're trained in combat fighting, you may be considered a deadly weapon.


I'm going to stop talking about this now!!

[Lohman446]

Thats what it says on paper...I know though that even here in Cali, most everyone I know has gotten into a defensive fight and whooped someone's *donkey* really badly. The police pretty much just arrest whoever threw the first blow or shove. I'm trained in something, but I don't usually tell people in case I use it. I guess if you're trained in combat fighting, you may be considered a deadly weapon.


I'm going to stop talking about this now!!

Tough, your tyalking about it now.. we have hijacked this thread.

There is nothing on paper that I have seen that says combat training, martial arts, or other knowledge requires you to use less force. However, the way the law reads it involves the amount of force a reasonable person would have used given your situation - and your training is part of the situation. As such the jury may well be asked to take it into consideration.

[sbpyro]

Thats what it comes down to. Tourny players are there to win and usually will use all that they have to win. When they use all that, and still lose, they get angry. Their angry is not like a rec-baller losing, because they take the game way more seriously. They cuss, mostly because they are angry, and need to vent some how. As for bonus balling, im not to sure about them with that.

Sean

So what about the tourney (or wanna be) players that play rec ball?
Should they bring a tourney attitude to rec play?
Besides win or lose in tourney or rec there is a little thing called sportsmanship.

[Lohman446]

I hear the justification from tournament players about "we have to win"

BS... what is really at stake.. a hundred dollars, a few hundred? Unless your playing in pros (Im going to let them go for now) you're playing for fun. Get over it, it really doesn't matter if you win or loose. The need to win does not give you an excuse. Now do you cheat because you want to win - well at least you're being honest now.

[magman#1]

it's funny to see the two extremes. at pbnation they flame the hell out of anyone who isn't an agg baller. and here you flame anyone who doesn't shoot a pump and shake everyones hand after the game and compliment how good they are. the truth is these are the EXTREMES of the game. i know a lot of tourney players and very close to none of them are jerks who cheat and cuss and bonus ball people for fun. just because someone has new stuff and likes to shoot a lot of paint doesn't make them a jerk. if that's not your thing then don't worry about it. the truth is paintball is made up of mostly cool people and the teams that are actually good realize that it is just a game and it is about having fun.

[ScatterPlot]

I'm proud to be one of those 5%. I don't ever find the need to swear or cuss or whatever when doing, well, anything, but specifically playing paintball. There are some idiots out there though that don't do it in one brief spat, but do it pretty much consistently all day. That bugs the tar out of me.

And the only time I bonus ball is with wipers. Man I hate wipers