they are copying Halos and Viewloaders! it irritates me how companies copy each other! 
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though they do have good stuff and things but they copy too much -
That is pure, comical brilliance.
Seriously... They didn't copy anything. They improved upon and slightly changed the design, and bought the rights to sell it with there name on it. They even use Odyssey parts.Comment
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EDIT: Ignore this post, I has things in my mind messed up and it may be factually entirely inaccurate No, I don't just delete my mistakes.. I made it
onsidering Manike invented the Halo, licensed it to oddysey and now works for Empire I'm not sure that i agree with the copying of the Halo thing. I mean they hired its designer and he brought the design with him
Disclaimer: I have no idea on any of the legal agreements between Empire, oddyssey, or Manike. I have made some assumptions here that I beleive to be true at the base - I know Manike works for National and designed the HALO>
Edit: ignore this post as in error - I made a mistakeLast edited by Lohman446; 03-30-2005, 07:42 PM."Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr SuessComment
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Chris Goddard at Odyssey made the Halo.Originally posted by Lohman446
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Hmm... well wasn't way off on that one there then... hmmms... yeh, umm.. hmmOriginally posted by Miscue
I stand corrected"Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr SuessComment
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hmm, i didn't know manike designed the halo (edit: miscue proved lohman wrong)
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Well, I thought he did. Don't see him on the patent... hurm.Originally posted by Lohman446
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Well, as the law found not too long ago, the Reloader was an unlicensed knockoff of the Revy.
However, the new Reloader II is not. It is its own design.
The Reloader B is licensed from Odyssey.
Like it or not, Empire builds what sells. Often, their "knockoff" is a better part than the original. Now, with 32 degs, not so much.
And I agree with Lohman, I too have seen Manike talking about the HALO as though he had a hand in the design. Perhaps he was working under contract with someone else.
OR, I could be totally full of crap (hey, it happens).Ryan Shanks
Logic Industries LLCComment
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maybe viewloader, empire, and odyssey are working together in disquise to be billia fe fi fa fillionaires?rt ule custom, boomstick, ult,apoc2k and x board revi, i want:j&j ceramic.Comment
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i hate 32 degrees
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In a nut shell, NPS licenses the Halo design and changes it in a way to get around BE/VLs Patent that restricted Odysseys production and distribution of the Halo.
It helps all involved.Logic Paintball Forums
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i think this thread belongs in FC
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how do u get that icon?? its awesomeOriginally posted by thecavemankevinhmm, i didn't know manike designed the halo (edit: miscue proved lohman wrong)
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The irony is delicious.Originally posted by HarrysSonComment
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