Originally posted by magman007
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So can stainless steel. Cheaper material, and not as cumbersome as Ti to work with. -
true, but ss cannot be annodized, any rate, titanium can accept annodization, it is just a different process. Also, dye probabally has some TI laying around, remember the tank reg they were going to make out of TI?
also, ti sells, its the truth, and the gun is pretty damn sexy
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Stainless steel would be a tight look... not a big fan of annod, made of metal then it should look like metal, made of wood it should look like wood lol. you want decoration? throw a sticker on it.
yeah thats my stupid opinion on that...
as to these things being worth buying, or even existing...? no.
But in that category i include just about every other hype-gun there is.
There is a company that makes the best guns within the realistic limitations of technology, a little company called AKA. They focus on efficiency not useless 30bps cycling rates. on compatability and durability, not looks. Realistic value, not reputation-pricetagging. Im not here to sell AKA as much as i am to bash every gun there is and in the process marketing and paintball production as a whole. But everybody is finally realizing companies like AKA are the bomb, so no gripes there.
so yeah, i hate peacock guns. This is a peacock gun, have fun looking like a peacock you peacocks.Comment
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Guess I'll give my opinion for no good reason.
Don't really like it.Don't like that grey strip around the front or the bulky feedneck or the smattering of colored aluminum parts.
And no, I'm not going to "You can just replace those things" on a gun in that price range.
I shoot a DM5 and love it. IMO, it's perfect right out of the box and is why I bought one.It's probably my favorite gun right now...and I have 'few' others for comparison.
The DMC looks alot like the DM5 'cept for that light grey strip wrapping around the front. What is it anyway? Strip of 'bounce' rubber or something? (Knowing Dye)
Other than that, it's fine but $500 extra is a little much to save maybe a few ounces IMO.Performance is not going to get any better,there just is anything to get better. Efficiency? Maybe...that's all you could possibly add to the DM5 but I get just fine efficiency on mine stock, it beats my Mags hands down and even those don't bother me.
So...
What ever. It'll sell like hot cakes, haters will hate it and Dye lovers will love it and next week we'll all be trashing the 'next' new thing.
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actually, that grey strip, has been changed to match the rest of the marker, those photos were never released straight from dye.
heres the pic that dye released http://www.dyematrix.com/images/dmc_colors.jpg
jack, you sir, are missinformed. Dye may hype markers, but the marker can back it up.
Aka, good company, but the viking wasnt for me.
ah and that tid bit about high cycle rates?. lets see how much they boasted the viking at what.. 44?
the dm5 is physically capable of oh... 24 to 25 if i remember correctly
looks? what do you call the dc viking, the featherlights, highlanders etc... i think aka and their subsidaries all care about looks
realistic value?. maybe you were late comming to aka markers, but a year ago... highlander vikings cost more then these things do.
so im sorry man, but you sir, really havnt an idea of what you are talking about. Aka makes good stuff, or they did... std makes good stuff now. please quit your trolling. thanks
-magman007 (also a mod at aka-o) i know my crap and i dont bash
oh edit: Durability... you sir really dont know what you are talking about. i have owned 3 different matrix incarnations, and they are incredibly durable. all you do is change an oring, or check a wire.. that is all that ever goes wrong with matrixes.
Vikings and excals require a 50 dollar tool kit if you want to take it appart and get it back to gether again running at the correct pressure. this is why i hated my viking. the user messed with the pressure before me, and it shot like crap. i couldnt fix it, because i didnt have the money to afford the tool kit.
Originally posted by Tom in reffrence to a post saying he acted like my dad...
"That's right!
WHO'S YOUR DADDY!!"
ALL QUIT AND NO GO!!! Team Icky Forest-Shatnerball 2003!!!
www.tunamart.com
DONT SUPPORT HYPOCRITICAL MISSLEAD YOUTH, BOYCOTT HK
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imake a body out of wood for my FS and ill use itOriginally posted by JakedubbleyaStainless steel would be a tight look... not a big fan of annod, made of metal then it should look like metal, made of wood it should look like wood lol. you want decoration? throw a sticker on it.
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Originally posted by quikIts pretty, but I can spend $1700 on more useful things.
like what?!?!?
lol j/k
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yeah, "used to" is a big word there. Guess im mentally stuck back in the glory days... *sigh*Originally posted by magman007actually, that grey strip, has been changed to match the rest of the marker, those photos were never released straight from dye.
heres the pic that dye released http://www.dyematrix.com/images/dmc_colors.jpg
jack, you sir, are missinformed. Dye may hype markers, but the marker can back it up.
Aka, good company, but the viking wasnt for me.
ah and that tid bit about high cycle rates?. lets see how much they boasted the viking at what.. 44?
the dm5 is physically capable of oh... 24 to 25 if i remember correctly
looks? what do you call the dc viking, the featherlights, highlanders etc... i think aka and their subsidaries all care about looks
realistic value?. maybe you were late comming to aka markers, but a year ago... highlander vikings cost more then these things do.
so im sorry man, but you sir, really havnt an idea of what you are talking about. Aka makes good stuff, or they did... std makes good stuff now. please quit your trolling. thanks
-magman007 (also a mod at aka-o) i know my crap and i dont bash
oh edit: Durability... you sir really dont know what you are talking about. i have owned 3 different matrix incarnations, and they are incredibly durable. all you do is change an oring, or check a wire.. that is all that ever goes wrong with matrixes.
Vikings and excals require a 50 dollar tool kit if you want to take it appart and get it back to gether again running at the correct pressure. this is why i hated my viking. the user messed with the pressure before me, and it shot like crap. i couldnt fix it, because i didnt have the money to afford the tool kit.
I bash
, im an idealist, young and foolish i guess. And although i probably deserved it for being so general and biased, apparently you bash as well.
Everybody knows AKA is in a pretty undesirable state, and yeah theyve made some peacock guns. But theyve mainly made "realistic value" guns that work better than any other. They could have thrown it in a supermilled body, said it had the best efficiency, and charged twice as much in the first place. Maby it just didnt occur to them, but that still puts them one step above any company in my book, and im confident they will realize people buy AKA for their (former) lack of BS, and go back to the ingenuitive, practical production they used to be regarded for by people in the LP community, except now on a much larger scale.
Just curious tho how any any marker backs up the hype. I can take a vision impy, or for kicks, a lp electro spyder since they have vision kits now, and produce the same field effectiveness as that dye. If im going to pay that much for milling, im going to get it milled custom, the way I want.
I was clearly comparing AKA to the general marketing ideals of paintball today, not the dye markers, but thanks for the tidbits, good to know.
Yeah the price of the toolkits is pretty lame, but it helps discourage messing with the gun in the first place. Probably good for your average paintball player, although i resent it lol, messing is the best part.Last edited by Jakedubbleya; 04-16-2005, 10:57 PM.Comment
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That marker is beautiful! Wouldn't buy it, but I wish I could!
To those who like it: Good for you.
To those who don't: Good for you.
As for the milling: It's always subjective. You can't bash a marker's value because of milling, since it's such a personal thing.
As for the materials: Let's see how it holds up before bashing it.
As for the price: Some can afford it, some can't. People spend lots of money on all types of crap they don't need. It's not a bad thing, nor is it a good thing. It just is.Comment
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I never liked pics of DM_, but when I see them in person, it's a nice gun. I've been thinking of getting a Proto..............
And now for something completely different: Quick point of interest: Diablo built/invented the first Matrix, not DYE.[Something Cool is Here]Comment
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Nah I'd probably still call it poop, POOP!Originally posted by JimmyBeam..... if AGD didnt put it out, then its ugly and a P.O.S. huh?
of course I thoght the DM 4/5 and the protos look like poop too. I could personally give a damn how they perform.
Just think of next year when dye comes out with the next big thing what the value of this (and preceding models) is gonna be....POOP! Maybe I'm just uselessly clinging to the old school idk.
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