DYE sues SP! DISCUSS!

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  • gc82000
    LNIB just a few scratches
    • Mar 2004
    • 1346

    #31
    Whoa the Supernova. Have not heard that name in a while. I thought it had a boltless operating system, I might be very wrong. But did it have a moving barrel system that fed the balls and such. Wasnt it also created by a man who specialized in shooting shirts and hotdogs into the stands at sporting events.
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    • BigEvil
      www.BigEvilOnline.com

      • Feb 2005
      • 9333

      #32
      IF Dye wins this..(Evil Laugh)..... so much for the $300 ION.

      LMFAO

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      • bleachit
        Conturbo et Ledo
        • May 2003
        • 1410

        #33
        Originally posted by gc82000
        Whoa the Supernova. Have not heard that name in a while. I thought it had a boltless operating system, I might be very wrong. But did it have a moving barrel system that fed the balls and such. Wasnt it also created by a man who specialized in shooting shirts and hotdogs into the stands at sporting events.
        yup articulating barrel, boltless design, and I believe, original spool valve in paintball
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        • gc82000
          LNIB just a few scratches
          • Mar 2004
          • 1346

          #34
          Originally posted by bleachit
          yup articulating barrel, boltless design, and I believe, original spool valve in paintball
          I knew it, thanks bleachit.
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          • WARPED1
            I'm a pirate, ARRRRRRRRRR!
            • Nov 2001
            • 7458

            #35
            Originally posted by Conversekidz
            HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

            SP gets a taste of their own medicine
            No. When will you realize this happens every day in nearly every business?! Or, are you not from America?
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            • Steelrat
              I meant to...uh, nevermind
              • May 2003
              • 5375

              #36
              Originally posted by RogueFactor
              Live by the sword, die by the sword...
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              • nippinout
                FUSP
                • Jan 2002
                • 1231

                #37
                Originally posted by WARPED1
                No. When will you realize this happens every day in nearly every business?! Or, are you not from America?
                It doesn't mean that we have to stand for it or just go along our merry ways complacent with these methods.
                BAM!
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                • shadowspar
                  Philosopher-Geek
                  • Jun 2002
                  • 25

                  #38
                  I'm not a big fan the way patents seem to be used to stifle innovation and growth in the sport instead of promoting them. But you have to admit that it's poetic justice, the way this happened. You know what they say...

                  Originally posted by RogueFactor
                  Live by the sword, die by the sword...
                  ...hey! You beat me to it!

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                  • Lohman446
                    Useful posts: 7
                    • Jun 2003
                    • 9315

                    #39
                    If Dye wins I will be greatly surprised. SP does not seem to do very much without one eye towards the courts, and I think they know what they are doing. Like it or not.. there decisions are made by people who know the patent system, and I doubt they just ignored one. Flipped off the system as they walked through loopholes, sure, but I doubt they loose. Remember, WDPs "big" win against them forcing them to change the board system was overturned... these people are smarter than many people give them credit for. They probably found some designer of the spool valve who hadn't signed with the devlopment company Dye bought and can now jointly hold the patent (Ok, maybe not) WOuldn't that be ironic.
                    "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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                    • Richter
                      Registered User
                      • May 2001
                      • 262

                      #40
                      I watch on cnn headline news the other day that somebody went to court to dispute the patent on peanut butter and jelley sandwiches that don't have crust on them. I don't remember which company has the "uncrustables" but they have a patent on it! The dispute basicly saying that there was no inovation in creating a uncrusted pb&j sandwich and the patent should be thrown out.
                      so i guess anything is patentable; shoot the ribbed piece of cardboard around a cup of coffee is patented!

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                      • Enemy
                        aKa PROZAC
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 1245

                        #41
                        well it seems neither of sps guns really completely defy the patent!! it seems that neither desing closes off the flow of air from the source to the dump chamber! that makes sense as i couldnt understand why sp designed the shocker like that, i know why now! but the HE bolt kit fits the exact description of the dye patent but then why wait almost 2 years after th introduction of the shocker to actually bring this to court!


                        edit: reading the patent anyone get dejavu with the design of the atuomag isnt that patented? i wonder could agd unknowingly hold the patent for all spool valve style markers? yeah im reaching with this one but hey wouldnt that be funny!
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                        • jewie27
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2001
                          • 1275

                          #42
                          So is this really about who has a patent on paintball markers in general? All paintball markers are gas powered...........

                          Somone clarify this for me.

                          Go Dye!!! Counter sueing is fun....

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                          • Enemy
                            aKa PROZAC
                            • Aug 2003
                            • 1245

                            #43
                            Originally posted by jewie27
                            So is this really about who has a patent on paintball markers in general? All paintball markers are gas powered...........

                            Somone clarify this for me.

                            Go Dye!!! Counter sueing is fun....

                            if you read the patent and have a working knowledge of the 2-3 markers in question you will realize that the patent is not for paintball markers it is for the use of the spool valve!!! have a look it describes spool valves really well!
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                            • LudavicoSoldier
                              Red Sox National
                              • Jun 2003
                              • 1743

                              #44
                              After the diplay of disgust with SP's legal warfare, are you guys going to support DYE in their campaign simply because they are not Smart Parts? Is what DYE is doing any less wrong?
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                              • TheDuelist
                                Office use only.
                                • Oct 2002
                                • 671

                                #45
                                It's not wrong, it's business. Paintball is not "going under" it's suffering growing pains. Reality is setting in and people aren't liking it. Get over it because this is how its going to be from now on. Does it suck? In some respects. Is it the natural evolution of the sport? Oh yeah. This is just the tip of the iceberg. If any one of you thats complaining owned a paintball comapny and had someone walk all over your product stealing money from you, tell me you wouldn't sue? Its the nature of the beast. Obvioulsy DYE believes they have a case or they wouldn't have gone to court. It doesn't matter what the consumer thinks because we just buy the equipment, we don't make it and our livelyhoods don't depend on the products made by said company. Its not about us, its about the people employed by DYE and the way they make their money, be it good or bad. Stop the "woe is me, woe is paintball" attitude. Paintball will still be here, whether your a part of it is the question you need to answer.

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