karni hits 54 bps

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  • Chronobreak
    Rec Poster
    • Mar 2003
    • 5055

    #31


    reminded me of that vid.

    i rehosted it cause i couldnt find the original lmk if it doesnt work..but it SHOULD

    i also have one of an angel or AHD..cant seem to find it.

    btw i need to see paint or its shenanigans

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    • chefstevie
      CCM PUMPER
      • Oct 2004
      • 1025

      #32
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      its obviously not goin all ther way back and forth its probably got some custom tuning just for it to do that...cycle that much per second without reckocking all the way in and out...just my opinion
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      • diaper eater
        Registered User
        • Oct 2004
        • 145

        #33
        as stated before in this thread, and i shall repeat in caps so errrbody sees it

        THE VIDEO WAS DOCTORED

        watch the video in the background, sped up, then pay attention to the natural movements of the camera, overly agile and quick for someone trying to steady the camera

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        • Duzzy
          Mentally confused, wanders

          • Apr 2004
          • 940

          #34
          I would have to agree.

          Watch the Football Game in the background, especially the 9 second point. Some guy goes zooming past the referees... Way to fast to say the least...

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          • Z-man
            You guys lost me
            • Jul 2001
            • 2202

            #35
            I just came on and saw this (sheesh set out for a few days and look what happens). I have not studies the mvie in detail but I did take the time to rip the sound off it and make some simple images for you all to look at.

            First off, shame on these guys for doing this inside a room where it can echo and shame on them for have a TV running with music going on. Thi makes is all the harder to tell what is a shot and what is music.

            The second thing that would be nice is if he had pull made it shoot a single shot before the sting of shots he made. that way you can see what the sound signature of the double action sounds like and not accidently be counting the return cycle of the marker as a "shot"

            Now all that aside if the marker is cycling fully each time the sound spikes should be about the same. However, when I looked at a section that sounded consistantly fast (22.6-23.6 sec) I did not get a good clear indication of the spikes to count. Where is the noise spike background noise and where is it a shot? You tell me. (notice each image is a zoomed in version of the last 1 second, then 3/10ths of a second, then 1/10th of a second)





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            • Enemy
              aKa PROZAC
              • Aug 2003
              • 1245

              #36
              thats alot of spikes and they arent spaced off too evenly either i cant differentiate anything got any opinions zman
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              • Z-man
                You guys lost me
                • Jul 2001
                • 2202

                #37
                Originally posted by Enemy
                thats alot of spikes and they arent spaced off too evenly either i cant differentiate anything got any opinions zman


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                • 93civiccpe
                  Registered User
                  • Feb 2005
                  • 572

                  #38
                  Hey,
                  I'm a huge cocker fan and I've been using them, building them, and selling them for a while now. I will be the first so say no way. They'll never get anything near that with real paint, and it does look doctored. BTW, someone message me as to how fast a q-loader can load paint and how it operates. I've seen pics of them in the for-sale section and from what I saw it looked like a pod with a spring in it.. lol. Anyways, I have a halo-b with victory & rip, and even though it claims 35 it can't hold that feed rate most of the time. More people need to go pick up a pump gun and play a full day with it so they can remember how to play "tactical" again instead of just throwing the most paint. You won't believe how much your playing style changes, and how little paint you will end up using. (BTW, I'm definitely not talking to the speedballers out there, more to woodsball players. If you take a pump on a speedball course against some high speed electros, then you get my badge of courage.. or stupidity.. lol.)
                  In general, I don't know many people who have fast enough and strong enough fingers to shoot over 20bps. So who cares how far past 20 it can go.. I don't know any fields that allow full-auto so when would you even use it.

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                  • Teamslayer76
                    I want my Sig back
                    • Jul 2004
                    • 480

                    #39
                    Also note that there is no hopper capable of feeding that fast. The only one that comes close the the Q-Loader but I doubt it could feed 40 bps even. So if its says its feeding 50+ bps is a bunch of bs.
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                    • Codekevin0403
                      Whoa we can do this????
                      • Mar 2005
                      • 269

                      #40
                      it feeds about 37 bps consistantly, and i have tested. If i had a video camera or a camera i'd show you, but i'm short on that. And it uses 'helical drive technology' which means that it uses a spring to force paintballs through the tube into the breech...i think.


                      *edit* Sorry i forgot something, the equalizer board for the halo is claimed by wicked air sports to feed 50+ bps. I'm thinking that's just a burst but i don't know because i haven't personally tried it yet. But that's a thought.

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                      • SCpoloRicker
                        HA HA I'm custom!!1
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 4375

                        #41
                        OMGBBQROFL!!

                        Zak shoots 77 bps!!
                        God....I guess I was probably returning videotapes.

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                        • hitech
                          Not a shedder of vortices
                          • Nov 2001
                          • 4775

                          #42
                          Nice work Zak!


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                          • FSU_Paintball
                            (well, not any longer)
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 618

                            #43
                            As far as analyzing it with goldwave, let's not forget that aside from all the background noise and echoing, there's 2 very loud noises per shot - the shot itself, and the backblock slapping back and forth. So it's possible that you're counting 2 shots per one "real" shot
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                            • txaggie08
                              Big mouth
                              • Jan 2005
                              • 1213

                              #44
                              anybody good with math? take the recharge adischarge rates of the ram versus the power it takes to cycle one. ill tlak to my cousin, hes a mathmatics major.......there should be an actual mathmatecal formula that will give you exactly how many time that ram can completely cycle the gun. i would assume that would be a way to get the max ROF of any gun(pneumatic that is). just a though.

                              looking at the way that guns back block was moving, im thinking it either wasnt recocking all the way or he had the cocking rod out. im not familiar enough with what the butt end of a karni looks like to tell you if its there or not. it didnt sound like the gun was firing at all to tell you the truth, but then i might be wrong. i know my buddys cocker sounds like cannon, even on video

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                              • txaggie08
                                Big mouth
                                • Jan 2005
                                • 1213

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Codekevin0403
                                it feeds about 37 bps consistantly, and i have tested. If i had a video camera or a camera i'd show you, but i'm short on that. And it uses 'helical drive technology' which means that it uses a spring to force paintballs through the tube into the breech...i think.


                                *edit* Sorry i forgot something, the equalizer board for the halo is claimed by wicked air sports to feed 50+ bps. I'm thinking that's just a burst but i don't know because i haven't personally tried it yet. But that's a thought.
                                ive heard that has a lot to due with the feed rate between the first and second ball. Just something i was reading the other day. apparently they take the "max BPS fed" from the first few balls were there a crap load of tension on the stack

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