ion thread, dont post if your gonna whine

[VFX_Fenix]

The reason I say that I don't believe that an after market trigger frame will be avalible soon is simply the "complexity", if you want to call it that, of the piece because of the integrated ASA. THe piece would most likely end up costing over $200 given the price of other trigger frames out there which are JUST a trigger frame. Case in point Logic Ripper which is most likely similar to what most people looking for a replacement frame will be looking for.

It not only will be more material intensive, but also more machine intensive to make what SP'S made into the Ion trigger frame.

[Paintchucker]

ok, this is getting annoying. Everyone stop complaining about ion posts. There are maybe a total of 5-6 threads about Ions. They are a new gun and cheaply priced for such good features. That is why everyone is talking about them. Maybe if AGD would do something similar, everyone would be talking about AGD guns. But, AGD seems to be selling off their stock and dont have anything new in their lineup. ANything done to mags that is nice was done by someone else (ie pneumag frame, devilmags, homemade emags)

Truth is that ppl dont just post about Ions here. They DO go to ion forum on PBN, or other websites. This is ANOTHER site we visit. SO get off our backs. If you are an ion hater, dont post or read the thread.

Everyone is jealous of our cool new cheap entry level tourny guns. And to think that many of us have endured the Mag vs. Cocker Debate for 10-13 years... It is part of paintball, as is the My Gun is cooler than Ur Gun regardless of the manufacturer... But the bottom line is not your gun but your skills, but it is much harder to argue "I bunker better than you do"...

We are on several forums: www.IonOwnersGroup.com and PBNation SmartParts ION forum, and also here because we love our mags and love our ions and we don't have a big issue seeing both types of guns as viable. Too bad the rest of the world is so close minded... But it is their silliness and their loss...

[BigEvil]

Everyone is jealous of our cool new cheap entry level tourny guns. And to think that many of us have endured the Mag vs. Cocker Debate for 10-13 years... It is part of paintball, as is the My Gun is cooler than Ur Gun regardless of the manufacturer... But the bottom line is not your gun but your skills, but it is much harder to argue "I bunker better than you do"...

We are on several forums: www.IonOwnersGroup.com and PBNation SmartParts ION forum, and also here because we love our mags and love our ions and we don't have a big issue seeing both types of guns as viable. Too bad the rest of the world is so close minded... But it is their silliness and their loss...

WOW. they even let you have a sig image there

[Lohman446]

Everyone is jealous of our cool new cheap entry level tourny guns.

Umm.. I doubt it

Too bad the rest of the world is so close minded...

Yeh, because we shouldn't even discuss if there may be better markers out there, after all we are just jealous.

[bound for glory]

i will admit i have been an anti-ion jerk i promise to never, ever put down the ion again. ok?

[fire1811]

i will admit i have been an anti-ion jerk i promise to never, ever put down the ion again. ok?

but what a lot of people dont understand is there is nothing else to talk about right now so this gives us something to do.

[WARPED1]

Too bad the rest of the world is so close minded... But it is their silliness and their loss...

Not the rest of the world, just AO.................

[Lohman446]

Not the rest of the world, just AO.................

Careful on that line of thought... you go from being open minded to discussion of the Ion and its strengths to close minded in discussion of its weaknesses very easily along that line. Those who do not agree with you are not necessarily close minded. They may place greater value on areas that would be considered weaknesses of the Ion then you do. Those who instantly assume that those that do not agree with them are just too stupid to quickly find themselves being the one with a very closed mind. I find AO, for the majority, reasonably open minded with few true extremists. Those who hold beleifs for a reason, can outline a logical reason to hold those beleifs, are not extremists, they may just place value points differently than you do.

[yakitori]

Who are you even "talking" to? There's been very little whining here.

Apparently you havent been reading the Ion threads lately. Everyone of them has someone saying something along the lines of....my gun blows the ion away...stop posting about ions this is AO. And the Ion.org comment was along those lines.

I agree that there hasnt been much whining here in this particular thread, but read around and you will see.

I too own mags (have owned many of them). I love mags. I will argue that they are the best mech guns around. I have said that all along. ON the otherhand, I like the Ion too. I dont care for shockers or imps because they have reflective eyes, and they cost too much (and imp w/ ups does) . Ive shot many high end guns to know the difference between them, and I am impressed with the ion. That was my whole point.

I cant love a mag and ion at the same time? They both have strengths and weaknesses. I just think it is a great performing gun for only 285. It actually resembles the mag in terms of pneumatics. Only difference is air pushes the bolt back instead of a spring, and it operates at a lower pressure and is more efficient. Im just saying, shoot one for a while and you will see why it is the topic of discussion in the paitball community now.

[WARPED1]

Apparently you havent been reading the Ion threads lately. Everyone of them has someone saying something along the lines of....my gun blows the ion away...stop posting about ions this is AO. And the Ion.org comment was along those lines.

Actually, the only person saying thier gun owns all others is bound for glory, saying his Devilmag was the best ever. :)