Will ION affect PneuMag?

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  • ApexAZ
    Registered User
    • Feb 2005
    • 161

    #1

    Will ION affect PneuMag?

    Just wondering what peoples thoughts are. If the price of the PneuMag is 200+ why not just get an ION. I wonder if that will give PTP second thoughts about releasing it.

    Please don't turn this into a ION bash thread either.
  • Jackel411
    East Coast Anarchy...WHAT!
    • Jan 2003
    • 882

    #2
    Ill be the first and the last to dead this thread..

    Because as with ANY AGD gun , it has a large following of people. Those that have an already seriously tricked out mag will rather spend the money and make it that much better.

    And having owned an Ion for all of 1 day , it feels to much like a cheap nerf gun that shoots paint.. not like a persision machined marker..
    Wild Geese - Coney Isand White Fish - ECA
    ECAP - "Making players dreams other players nightmares"

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    • Faddy
      Registered User
      • Jul 2004
      • 34

      #3
      The Ion is still an electronic marker, where as the PneuMag isn't. That's one of the big selling points. They're completely different markers. And, simply by posting yet another Ion thread, you're asking to get it bashed, especially comparing it to a mag.

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      • Lupis Fidelis
        I miss VAG
        • Nov 2004
        • 104

        #4
        Pnuemag=all-weather ripper. You'll never have to worry about gettin' down and dirty or wet and wild with a pnuemag .

        "There are no atheists in foxholes" isn't an argument against atheism, it's an argument against foxholes. -James Morrow :headbang:

        RAMF.NET

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        • Jackel411
          East Coast Anarchy...WHAT!
          • Jan 2003
          • 882

          #5
          Ion's are electronic yes.. but turn the rebound off and its a very lame one of that..

          ITs not a very fast gun with the rebound off , it feels VERY sloppy. Ive seen well tune mech cockers , and espyders shoot faster than an Ion with rebound turned of.. and with todays faster is better mentality and the illegality of " Rebound " modes that makes a HUGE difference
          Wild Geese - Coney Isand White Fish - ECA
          ECAP - "Making players dreams other players nightmares"

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          • ApexAZ
            Registered User
            • Feb 2005
            • 161

            #6
            I'm sorry my intention wasn't so much to compare the two rather then ask if it will affect the release of the PneuMag.

            I'm very well aware that AutoMags have a very loyal following. But is it big enough to turn a profit?

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            • Spacemanvic
              Pennsyltuckian
              • Jan 2005
              • 184

              #7
              Yeah, but lil Johnny Numb Nutts down the street has an Ion and I want one too!

              Make way for the band wagon


              Originally posted by Jackel411
              Ion's are electronic yes.. but turn the rebound off and its a very lame one of that..

              ITs not a very fast gun with the rebound off , it feels VERY sloppy. Ive seen well tune mech cockers , and espyders shoot faster than an Ion with rebound turned of.. and with todays faster is better mentality and the illegality of " Rebound " modes that makes a HUGE difference

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              • Jackel411
                East Coast Anarchy...WHAT!
                • Jan 2003
                • 882

                #8
                Let we all forget here he is also comparing and upgrade to an entire gun...

                Yes there similar in price range.. but when and UPGRADE costs 200 Bucks its going to be well made and have atleast all metal parts... No lets look at the $300 Ion... hmm.. not very well made Ive seen alot not working at all out of the box brand new , and lets we forget cutting corners on fit and finish to make money... " Hey kids buy this awsome gun its half plastic and powder coat! "

                The irony of this gun is the same people that are snapping up this gun like ice tea on a hot day are the same people 2 years ago were Whineing that the M-98's were powder coated and thusly made it look like a cheap junk pile
                ION = Hype Junk
                Wild Geese - Coney Isand White Fish - ECA
                ECAP - "Making players dreams other players nightmares"

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                • Spacemanvic
                  Pennsyltuckian
                  • Jan 2005
                  • 184

                  #9
                  SP: It's the MTV of paintball - More hype than substance!

                  Remember when MTV actually played music videos? Remember when SP used to make really good paintball equipment?




                  Originally posted by Jackel411
                  Let we all forget here he is also comparing and upgrade to an entire gun...

                  Yes there similar in price range.. but when and UPGRADE costs 200 Bucks its going to be well made and have atleast all metal parts... No lets look at the $300 Ion... hmm.. not very well made Ive seen alot not working at all out of the box brand new , and lets we forget cutting corners on fit and finish to make money... " Hey kids buy this awsome gun its half plastic and powder coat! "

                  The irony of this gun is the same people that are snapping up this gun like ice tea on a hot day are the same people 2 years ago were Whineing that the M-98's were powder coated and thusly made it look like a cheap junk pile
                  ION = Hype Junk

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                  • Jackel411
                    East Coast Anarchy...WHAT!
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 882

                    #10
                    Not for nothing... I still think smartparts stuff has always been second rate, And were talking since they came about in 92-93. There first product spiral ported barrels... alot of other people were doing it at the time they were just the first to slap a patent on it.
                    Wild Geese - Coney Isand White Fish - ECA
                    ECAP - "Making players dreams other players nightmares"

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                    • cledford
                      Registered User
                      • Feb 2001
                      • 1386

                      #11
                      Pnue-mag!?!?!!?

                      I'm going to go on record (and hope like heck I'm wrong...) that it'll never happen. Do I have any inside knowledge? Nope. But I just don't see it happening - so someone PROVE me wrong and release the dang thing; otherwise it is a wet dream I'll put a steak on ain't gonna ever make it to production.

                      Talking about it at this point is even stupid - it's the worst vaporware ever. Sorry to sound so negitive and only time will tell whether I'm right or not - regardless of what people are saying. If it were a rever going to happen then there would be a release date at this point.

                      -Calvin
                      From a poster at PB Nation:

                      ""Jim, back to your cave. Bob Long is on the batphone..."

                      MY FEEDBACK

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                      • yakitori

                        #12
                        The ion is a good gun. It will cost about the same as a pneumag frame alone.

                        Ions are not bad guns. The trigger feels a little cheap, but a little mods and it will feel just right. And I frame blades are not sloppy trigger? please.

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                        • Fathom
                          Registered User
                          • Feb 2005
                          • 50

                          #13
                          i'd say that the pneumag is just gonnabe like the isis comeing out form powerlyte. alot of holding breath with some updaqtes every now and then but people are rapidly giving up hope.

                          Anyways i think personally i would take a pneumag over a ion any day they are the crappiest craps that ever crapped a crap load of crap (excuse my french)

                          does anyone have a website for the pneumag i've only been able to keep up with current events form word of mouth.


                          Fathom

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                          • chairman_mao
                            Boom Bazooka Joe
                            • Nov 2003
                            • 1032

                            #14
                            To answer your question very little to no impact on the pnuemag. The target groups of the two are completely different
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                            • TheTramp
                              Registered User
                              • Jan 2001
                              • 4019

                              #15
                              Dammit! That's exactly what I was going to say.

                              The people who were/are (hopefuly) going to spend the money on the Pneuframe aren't going to change their mind because of an inexpensive E-gun.
                              "Relax. Don't worry. Have a Home Brew."
                              -Charlie Papazian

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