BPS "Showdown" - PRIZES

[Boydster]

Yup. Adjust it to where it's right behind the back of the emode pull. Then when it's in hybrid, you just have to pull the trigger a wee bit further for it to hit the sear.

[jenarelJAM]

ok, i took needle nose's to my sear, and the thing wouldnt turn. i took the whole gun apart, tried to use needle noses, and they just slid off the sear pin. I put everything back together, and my sear was further into the trigger frame. does anybody know why it did this? now my gun isn't firing in e-mode, and i's pissed that i didnt jsut leave it how it was. it still fires in mech, but not e-mode. This should probably go under tech, but...

[Lohman446]

Due to so many people having "time" issues we are going to extend the end date of the contest to June 15th - this gives everyone plenty of time

[yakitori]

ok, i took needle nose's to my sear, and the thing wouldnt turn. i took the whole gun apart, tried to use needle noses, and they just slid off the sear pin. I put everything back together, and my sear was further into the trigger frame. does anybody know why it did this? now my gun isn't firing in e-mode, and i's pissed that i didnt jsut leave it how it was. it still fires in mech, but not e-mode. This should probably go under tech, but...

Take your gun apart down to the trigger frame. Lift up on the back of the sear and remove the trigger rod pin. You just adjusted it out a bit too far. You need to make VERY small turns. Take it out and turn it back in a little. If it sticks out too far you may get some bounce even in Emode. Dont worry about hybrid, it is just sweetspotting basically. You adjust that trigger rod until it is just right w/ the trigger pull. It takes some practice on the trigger to. You have to pull it just right. I wouldnt worry about it, its not legal and would only be for fun. All you have to do is turn it back in. When you are testing it, you dont have to put the body and valve back in, just put the rail on and the sear pin in. Toggle your LED to TRG ON/OFF. Then check to see if its reaching the HES. when it detects a pull, it reads TRG ON.

hope that helps.

[SteelSoul]

Hey jenarelJAM

I am going to wait until you have paint and everything

with what I have seen so far you have dang . . . .

[Lohman446]

Ok.. E and X mag owners listen up - I want to phyiscally see that the marker is not in hybrid mode ... unless you have found a way to make hybrid 100% legal semi mode.

[Alpha]

Ooh, wish I knew about this sooner. I've bounced my mag into the 17's, and can easily hit 15 with the velocity turned up and my ULT tuned right.

I can't shoot paint around my house (it is the suburbs of massachusetts after all), but if I can drag my *** to a field on a weekend, consider myself entered.

My gun is fast for a mech, but I dont know if I can keep up with those elctros, especially if I can't cheat (with bounce) :)

gg guys

[Lohman446]

I've heard some awe inspiring numbers, as I normally do when anyone talks about BPS. I haven't seen any proof, as I normally don't, as is the case when most people talk about BPS. Let's see it guys.

[AGDlover]

yay this means i get to do another vid!!!!!!

[rx2]

JenarelJAM - since this is only a test vid, I just took a quick look at the vid. I took a few strings that seemed to be fastest, and I counted in one of them 22 bps (while you were raking).

Again, since that was just a dry run, so to speak, I didn't do extensive analysis. I should note that there is a LOT of echo in the video. However, there is a rather uniform, and identifiable signature that allowed me to differentiate, for the most part, between echo actual shots fired. The echo typically appeared as a latent peak of lower energy a few ms after the initial shot. If you can manage a cleaner video for the run with paint, it would be great.

As for the clock idea, the only way to satisfy everyone would be to have the clock in the video the whole time, and to have a clock that counted seconds. Even though I trust you, I know how easy it is to affect a video in such a way that the beginning and end are at normal speeds, whilst everything in between is sped up, with pitch correction to ensure that it didn't sound funny. You know how people can be when it comes to winning money, especially when only a fraction of a bps may make the difference.

[MonsterMag]

Heres a vid of my E after a tounery
Fingers were tired

http://www.putfile.com/media.php?n=Jason42

How fast is it?

[rx2]

A quick analysis reveals a couple of strings between 13 and 14 bps. By the way, the audio was very clean, which is great.

[jenarelJAM]

JenarelJAM - since this is only a test vid, I just took a quick look at the vid. I took a few strings that seemed to be fastest, and I counted in one of them 22 bps (while you were raking).

Again, since that was just a dry run, so to speak, I didn't do extensive analysis. I should note that there is a LOT of echo in the video. However, there is a rather uniform, and identifiable signature that allowed me to differentiate, for the most part, between echo actual shots fired. The echo typically appeared as a latent peak of lower energy a few ms after the initial shot. If you can manage a cleaner video for the run with paint, it would be great.

As for the clock idea, the only way to satisfy everyone would be to have the clock in the video the whole time, and to have a clock that counted seconds. Even though I trust you, I know how easy it is to affect a video in such a way that the beginning and end are at normal speeds, whilst everything in between is sped up, with pitch correction to ensure that it didn't sound funny. You know how people can be when it comes to winning money, especially when only a fraction of a bps may make the difference.

Thanks for the feedback, i have a feeling that the 22 bps is somewhat incorrect though, because the software is limited at 20. when i take it with paint, i will be taking it outside and shooting into a couple of hanging beach towels(to dampen echo) and it will be louder because it will actually be firing.
As far as the clock thing, i'll have to figure out somehting more idiot-proof, but if my friend held a clock(w/ second hand) in the screen shot area while i was shooting, would that work? It's a pretty high quality digital camera.

Ok.. E and X mag owners listen up - I want to phyiscally see that the marker is not in hybrid mode ... unless you have found a way to make hybrid 100% legal semi mode.

Pin showing that it's on e-mode ok? or do we have to actually take apart the gun to show? let me know because i want to do this 100% correct the first time.

Take your gun apart down to the trigger frame. Lift up on the back of the sear and remove the trigger rod pin. You just adjusted it out a bit too far. You need to make VERY small turns. Take it out and turn it back in a little. If it sticks out too far you may get some bounce even in Emode. Dont worry about hybrid, it is just sweetspotting basically. You adjust that trigger rod until it is just right w/ the trigger pull. It takes some practice on the trigger to. You have to pull it just right. I wouldnt worry about it, its not legal and would only be for fun. All you have to do is turn it back in. When you are testing it, you dont have to put the body and valve back in, just put the rail on and the sear pin in. Toggle your LED to TRG ON/OFF. Then check to see if its reaching the HES. when it detects a pull, it reads TRG ON.

hope that helps.

TY! it was pissing me off that i was trying to adjust my gun, and now it doesnt shoot... I'll get it fixed though, you can count on it. If i have more questions can i just PM them to you? Thanks

Due to so many people having "time" issues we are going to extend the end date of the contest to June 15th - this gives everyone plenty of time

TY! You're my Savior!

[Beemer]

Hey good post Jam?

I know Mark had said use PMs but we wont ALL learn from that. Post it up I say.

Put your rod and on off in OEM spec, follow rules 1 thur 9, Pay attention to #10 and good luck.

[MonsterMag]

A quick analysis reveals a couple of strings between 13 and 14 bps. By the way, the audio was very clean, which is great.

Cool , Whats the highest so far?