Action Markers ceases Operation!

[Fred]

wow...

I'm not suprised that AM is closing their doors, I'm suprised at the ignorant bashing some people are giving them...

AM has produced some excellent pieces of equipment, their customer service has been far above average, and their people have been a hell of a lot friendlier and open to input from the average paintball player than most I've met in my 6 years playing.

They shined bright before they went out.

---Fred

[onedude36]

I expected a better reaction to this from AO. This is another niche company that went down the drain. AGD is a niche company. I hope AGD doesn't do the same.

[Lohman446]

Those complaining about AO... I have a question

Who has been knocking AM? One comment that they thought they should have fought it out. Thats not knocking AM guys, thats an opinion and one that has some reasoning behind it. Do I agree? No I don't but I don't question the valid logic that can get there. Get over it, get off your superiority horse, or ride it somewhere else.. please

[WARPED1]

The large companies control the paintball market.

Welcome to the real world of business.

[CoolHand]

IMO, this is a way worse abuse of the system than SP ever came up with.

SP really did have the patent. Be it right or wrong how they got it, they really did have one.

Now, WGP/BrassEagle/K2 don't have anything at all. Nothing. A very weak "trade dress" angle, and even that is debatable. They strong armed them plain and simple.

"Oh, you're right, but it might be veeeeerrrrry expensive to prove that. Maybe you should just do like we say so you don't get hurt."

Sounds like something you'd hear on the Sopranos.

Like my pops says "F____ 'em if they can't take a joke."

I've never like Worr's cockers anyway, no reason to start now . . . . . .

[magmonkey]

there comes a time when you can't fight... these are peoples lives that could be possibly ruined in court room over what, the right to keep working 100 hour work weeks to get by in paintball..
another small company bites the dust... and I count the days until I am hit with some of the crap flying around this industry.... I used to think this was fun

[Nexus]

That's too bad. I didn't even know that company existed. They look like good guns too . . . They look like something I would have considered buying if I didn't buy a mag.

[Creative Mayhem]

WOW.. this sucks.. as much as I hate to admit it, this is the way of things and there will soon be very few companies making stuff, and of course the blind mases will bow down to them and fork over the $$ to them for their stuff. AM made some great stuff, I own a AMP Illusion and love it, the Diadem that I had the oppotunity to use was good as well, its a shame that I never got a chance to buy one.

[AGD]

Sad but true statement from a company that really tried. I feel for them, and I too am surprised at the amount of "so what" attitude on the board.

RIP

AGD

[WARPED1]

Sad but true statement from a company that really tried. I feel for them, and I too am surprised at the amount of "so what" attitude on the board.

RIP

AGD

It is sad and too bad. But it's the circle of life, the stragglers get picked off. It's not "so what", it's "there's nothing we can do, that's life" attitude, though some have been "so what?". But not me, I almost bought a Sentinel backup gun.

[Lohman446]

IMO, this is a way worse abuse of the system than SP ever came up with.

SP really did have the patent. Be it right or wrong how they got it, they really did have one.

Now, WGP/BrassEagle/K2 don't have anything at all. Nothing. A very weak "trade dress" angle, and even that is debatable. They strong armed them plain and simple.

"Oh, you're right, but it might be veeeeerrrrry expensive to prove that. Maybe you should just do like we say so you don't get hurt."

Sounds like something you'd hear on the Sopranos.

Like my pops says "F____ 'em if they can't take a joke."

I've never like Worr's cockers anyway, no reason to start now . . . . . .

Keep in mind that I have a very limited knowledge of the workings of the companies in paintball. I have no inside knowledge that the executives and owners of course do. But as Coolhand pointed out, this is basically what they did... its in the threat letter basically. What's next, going after every closed bolt marker because it resembles an autococker. I hope this upsets Palmer enough that he looks into the same "trade dress" infringement angle. As has been noted repeatedly, this is sometimes what happens in big business. Its not the only way though - think of Kimbers domination of the market over Colt when they entered... small companies can still make it, and grow.

I agree with Coolhand, this is just stupid. Paintballs changed. The courts are going to be making more and more decisions, and I expect we are not far from them making decisions that directly influence our rules as well. We're growing big boys, we have it all. Cheating on the field, lawsuits in the manufacturers, and maybe if we try hard enough drug hearings in frotn of Congress. Then we'll be the big time.

[magmonkey]

there is nothing we can do????? there is a TON we can do, the power in paintball is not with these scumbags.. it is in your back pocket.

anyone who wants to discuss how to make a change feel free to email me

[email protected]

Tom, please drop me a line either by email or 413-883-4389


Alan
DC

[RRfireblade]

RIP AM



Man, I hate to see the little guy get stomped for NO good reason.

Just an FYI based on my own information, an average Patent defense case starts at around $25,000 just to get in the door. Minor complexities can take it to $50,000 in the blink of an eye.

If you lose for whatever reason, on top of all previous expenses, you become liable for what ever damages the Plaintiff sees fit to ask for retroactive to the date of said Patent filing.

If you win....

You get nothing in most cases.

In situations like the AM case, it's like David VS Golith except Golith has the rock andf sling as well as the size and strength.

What would 'You' do?

[shartley]

Originally posted by AM-Steve

[PsychoBaller]

Stupid Big Paintball Companys... obviously you need to make money to stay in business, but when does the insanity of making a dollar cease?

All i see are PB relationships between the companies continuously ceasing, and more money being made by one side and such.... bad relations, high tensions. yada yada

-da "Retreat back to the woods" baller

TIme for Scenario and oldschool ball to come back into play.