Carbon Fiber Mainbody. Do you think this is possible?

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  • DrHistrysMistrys

    #16
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    Last edited by MarkM; 06-01-2005, 05:03 AM.

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    • PsychoBaller
      Gone are my SFL days...
      • Nov 2000
      • 1952

      #17
      Chill out amrani, just having some fun

      but anyways... I think it would be of more economical interest to just make a CF body cover, or shell or something...

      also... what about making general CF parts for any gun? I believe Deadlywind makes CF grips for the Freestsyle, and they are pretty sick. I'm gonna look into them and see if they will do for other guns. - http://www.deadlywind.com/store/fs_a...ies/index.html

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      • Chronobreak
        Rec Poster
        • Mar 2003
        • 5055

        #18
        Originally posted by PsychoBaller
        Chill out amrani, just having some fun

        but anyways... I think it would be of more economical interest to just make a CF body cover, or shell or something...

        also... what about making general CF parts for any gun? I believe Deadlywind makes CF grips for the Freestsyle, and they are pretty sick. I'm gonna look into them and see if they will do for other guns. - http://www.deadlywind.com/store/fs_a...ies/index.html




        go get a carbon sticker sheet

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        • amrani
          Deffinitly
          • Sep 2004
          • 201

          #19
          Chill out amrani, just having some fun
          heh, i was tired last night
          wtb logic vert frame in good condition. pics prefered pm me what you have.

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          • SteelSoul
            Registered User
            • Jun 2003
            • 315

            #20
            Hey who cares what the others people say
            Try it, I would love to see your project. . .
            It is the inventor that makes everything change and I would love to see the results, even if it doesnt work..


            Keep up the good work


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            • amrani
              Deffinitly
              • Sep 2004
              • 201

              #21
              mmm, it seems that the only tubing that i can find at the right thickness would be enough for 2 or 3 bodies. would anyone be interested in buying one from me if i get this to work?

              just an idea still, no promises

              it would most likely endup costing around the same, or less than a ULE body, as the tubinbg that would be enough for 3 bodies costs about 150 shipped to me
              wtb logic vert frame in good condition. pics prefered pm me what you have.

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              • Slimm Jimm
                _ave the planet
                • Jul 2003
                • 175

                #22
                if you can get it to work, i'd jump on that in an instant.
                play for the game

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                What would you do without people like me to make life hell?

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                • thejesus
                  i like ladies and guns...
                  • Jun 2002
                  • 199

                  #23
                  One thing you should keep in mind: Carbon fiber is only strong along the axis of the fibers. Any perpendicular forces put on the carbon fiber strands can easily cause extensive damage, and ultimately the unraveling of the structure. In addition, I don't see how you would be able to have metal internals rubbing up against the carbon fiber. All carbon fiber objects are coated in a polyurethane material to protect the fibers themselves. I would imaging that this would ultimately wear off in a gun with a stainless steel bolt. Maybe if you used a delrin bolt...

                  And I thought that Engineering Materials course was a waste of time at Georgia Tech...

                  Here's a story for you about my friend's girlfriend's carbon fiber bike: She is a bike courier that used to ride one of those Trek carbon-fiber road bike frames. Well, one day someone dinged the top tube of her frame with a car door, and two weeks later (after riding the bike every day), the freaking thing unravelled AS SHE WAS RIDING IT! Fortunately she was able to stop and wasn't hurt. So yes, while carbon fiber is one of the strongest materials on earth, and certainly one of the lightest, it's also very, very fragile.
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                  • alooney11
                    I like Halo2
                    • Oct 2004
                    • 349

                    #24
                    you can do it
                    68 Classic CF59529
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                    • hitech
                      Not a shedder of vortices
                      • Nov 2001
                      • 4775

                      #25
                      One thing to remember, a 'mag mainbody is A LOT MORE than just a tube.


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                      • SlartyBartFast
                        The Flying Scotsman
                        • Jun 2002
                        • 2940

                        #26
                        Originally posted by hitech
                        One thing to remember, a 'mag mainbody is A LOT MORE than just a tube.
                        A lot more?

                        Just an insert for the bolt spring to push on and a weld nut (can't think of the right term just now). Hardly a "lot".

                        To protect against wear a fiber wrapped thin wall tube could be used. For strength to attach to the rail, it might be best to rethink how the frame, rail, and mainbody screw together. Perhaps a new screw to hod the mainbody to the rail through the insert.

                        Bonding the insert into a preformed tube would be dificult. Best if the tube could be laid up on a mandrel and cured to the insert.

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                        • hitech
                          Not a shedder of vortices
                          • Nov 2001
                          • 4775

                          #27
                          Originally posted by SlartyBartFast
                          A lot more?
                          Well, I don't have one in front of me, but from memory, for a ule style body...

                          1. The "pim", which is the "nut" that the front screw attaches to
                          2. Slots/holes for the sear
                          3. Threads for the barrel
                          4. Attachment structure for the spring washer
                          5. Attachment for the feed neck
                          6. Attachment for the detent(s)
                          7. The breech

                          I'm not sure if the front and back IDs are the same diameter.

                          Now, for a twist lock body, you can replace the threads for a barrel with a hole for the twist lock pin and loose the breech and attachments for the detent(s).

                          So, maybe using the front half of an existing ule body (from the feed neck forward) and a carbon fiber back half you would only have a tube with holes/slots. Use a twist lock barrel and you could only use a alm block with the feed neck and pim with carbon fiber front and back tubes with holes/slots.



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                          • barrel break
                            Too much time
                            • Dec 2003
                            • 643

                            #28
                            A carbon fiber body for a paintball gun is 100% possible and would work, and be lighter. BUT you would need to mold it for your purpose, you do NOT want to try and drill holes in it.

                            Tolerances? They can be done extremely fine, trust me.
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                            • SlartyBartFast
                              The Flying Scotsman
                              • Jun 2002
                              • 2940

                              #29
                              Originally posted by hitech
                              Well, I don't have one in front of me, but from memory, for a ule style body...
                              If we're talking ULE bodies, that's another ball game. I was thinking twistlock/oldschool.

                              But an Xmag type body molded or machined from a resin/composite should still be easy. I mean BE does it.

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                              • hitech
                                Not a shedder of vortices
                                • Nov 2001
                                • 4775

                                #30
                                Yeah, sure, if you have the right equipment it's no big deal. However, buying some prefab cf tube and making a mainbody isn't. But hey, you can't so anything if you don't try.



                                Hey Hitech your starting to sound like me! - AGD
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