AO: We are back from the dead... again! After an 18 day outage, we are finally alive and well. Who knew how complicated updating software/databases from 2008 would be. I still have alot of tweaks to make, but my main goal was getting everything patched and updated to 2026.
Vbulletin 6 has changed alot since 2008 so we will have a ton of new features to dig into.
And I don't believe BE has anything to do with making the pneu-frames. Last I heard was BE is paying PTP for the right to make there OWN frames with the PTP design. I don't think PTP sold the patent to BE, so they have nothing to do with PTP making the frames for mags.
And yes it would be awesome for chris to be able to keep up with demand,but from the looks of things, it's not totally his fault. He has problems with machinist, etc. yes I'm sure it sucks, but I'm also sure he is doing everything in his power to get things done as fast as possible. If I wasn't so cheap, that's the frame I would get.
Oh yeah, is the DW site messed up, I couldn't get on last night to look around?
Chris is doing everything in his power for us guys. The first run of most anything, even teh second, is filled with production glitches. Maybe none of us thought about that when we started the DM thing, but its true and common. Look how long it took SP to bring the Nerve to market, and that was with all there power and money. Chris is doing everything he can, and he is likely the quickest and best option... if you want fast, Spydermod... sig edit, better for this thread
Yeah they send the fram to me and I bolt it on my gun. They could have a logic frame machined to hold a board, battery and solenoid in no time.
They already had a working pneumatic trigger first the PTP C**k Blocked the from releasing it. It would be great for DW to come out with a product that is "far enough to not infringe on the patent" purchased by PTP and continue to be a top MAG mod dealer. Just imagine a Nice Kartabody and and Eframe..................
Will you STFU about the C-blocking BS?
Seriously Man. AO is Bad enough with people like myself messing up threads, And We dont want to read that crap.
Get the hell over it.
Whether you know it or not, I REALLY dont think Colin (niCad) wants you spreading that crap around. It inadvertantly makes both Him AND PTP look bad.
You know why you dont see Colin on the boards here, complaining about what happened?
It's because he's a damned professional, and at least he has some respect for PTP. Whether or not that IS the case, at least he's civil.
I can't understand why you people ***** and moan about how long it takes to get A CUSTOM MARKER from a (what I understand is) a ONE man operation. Jebus Friggin Christmas On a GD Cross. I am physically sick from seeing all the threads bashing the one guy doing what everyone on AO has been whining for. A light 9v powered ramping mag. If you don't want custom buy a GD shocker and stopping complaining.
Will you STFU about the C-blocking BS?
Seriously Man. AO is Bad enough with people like myself messing up threads, And We dont want to read that crap.
Get the hell over it.
Whether you know it or not, I REALLY dont think Colin (niCad) wants you spreading that crap around. It inadvertantly makes both Him AND PTP look bad.
You know why you dont see Colin on the boards here, complaining about what happened?
It's because he's a damned professional, and at least he has some respect for PTP. Whether or not that IS the case, at least he's civil.
or maybe he doesn't say anything because of the futility in arguing about it with PTP or anyone simply because he's not going to get to build this thing without getting a big fat lawsuit.
I respect colin though for being cool in this. if someone told me I couldn't build something that they're never going to build I would be hella mad. Especially with how unclear any infringement is. Actually there's no infringement at all really.. but just because PTP had the first minute thought about it I guess anyone else who catches on did nothing but blatantly steal.
Maybe when this all levels out and there's no pneumatic mag frame.. DW will be allowed to make one when thousands of mag owners are saying "wtf mate?" when PTP is to busy making it for BE's crap guns.
You fools still think PTP was wrong.. amazing. Amazing. I guarantee you that if AGD had came along and said "Hey, we already have a patent on this, sorry DW, stop" you'd have no issues. But since it was PTP, you do. God forbid a company doesn't release info on a project, like PTP did..
. Actually there's no infringement at all really.. but just because PTP had the first minute thought about it I guess anyone else who catches on did nothing but blatantly steal.
You know this based on what expertise? You have seen the techinical drawings of both systems, know enough about them, and have a working knowledge of patent law in order to make an informed statement about it? You at least have a working knowledge of them? You are basing it off of what someone else says so properly noting it as there opinion? Or you are making an informed guess? Or is that statement that you meant that there was no intent on DWs part to steal any idea? I beleive that, but I don't have the expertise to tell you if its infringement or not - infringement is not just limited to copying and stealing ideas guys.
"Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess
You know this based on what expertise? You have seen the techinical drawings of both systems, know enough about them, and have a working knowledge of patent law in order to make an informed statement about it? You at least have a working knowledge of them? You are basing it off of what someone else says so properly noting it as there opinion? Or you are making an informed guess? Or is that statement that you meant that there was no intent on DWs part to steal any idea? I beleive that, but I don't have the expertise to tell you if its infringement or not - infringement is not just limited to copying and stealing ideas guys.
Remember, Lohman, AO doesn't need facts for an opinion.
or maybe he doesn't say anything because of the futility in arguing about it with PTP or anyone simply because he's not going to get to build this thing without getting a big fat lawsuit.
I respect colin though for being cool in this. if someone told me I couldn't build something that they're never going to build I would be hella mad. Especially with how unclear any infringement is. Actually there's no infringement at all really.. but just because PTP had the first minute thought about it I guess anyone else who catches on did nothing but blatantly steal.
Maybe when this all levels out and there's no pneumatic mag frame.. DW will be allowed to make one when thousands of mag owners are saying "wtf mate?" when PTP is to busy making it for BE's crap guns.
Where did you hear that they're not going to be building thier Pneu-Mag frame? According to these posts from RRFireblade (who works for PTP, IIRC), they're working on it now.
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Paintball Talk is the main forum for Automags.org. Here is where we talk about the sport of paintball in general and make announcements relating to the forum and website.
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I can't understand why you people ***** and moan about how long it takes to get A CUSTOM MARKER from a (what I understand is) a ONE man operation. Jebus Friggin Christmas On a GD Cross. I am physically sick from seeing all the threads bashing the one guy doing what everyone on AO has been whining for. A light 9v powered ramping mag. If you don't want custom buy a GD shocker and stopping complaining.
QFT!
My Viking took close to 5 months, and that was just milling and Anno.
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