Fireblade.... No mech mode?

[RRfireblade]

Hey:

Tuna nor any other AGD Tech or Dealer cannot warranty or guarantee that one of Logic's triggers will work in the E-Mag.

It is NOT covered under AGD Warranty. You can read it all you like; and I know I have. There is no special exception to the warranty process that says a Logic Trigger is under our warranty.

Also, moving your trigger rod ANY length outside of the 2.125 that AGD specifies is moving it outside of spec, which can void your warranty.

So, I'd suggest for anyone who would like to void their AGD warranty with a product other than AGD's to go to the person who makes that product and demand a warranty from them.

TunaMan is doing it for his own good. Why warranty a product you don't create or the company you work for doesn't create??? Makes no sense to me, if I were in his position I wouldn't warranty it either or guarantee that it will work.

Peace said.

If you would like to go into this any farther and choice words need to be used all of you know how to E-Mail or PM me.

-ClassicMagger

Umm, yeah...that's precisely what I've already stated back at the top of this page but...yeah, again.

As well as what action should be taken should an issue arise.

Why are we still talking about this?

As for Tuna, if it's to much trouble for you to install a Fireblade trigger, either charge what you feel it's worth to do or simply don't do it. It's only 'your' choice to make so make it, thanks.

If anyone needs one installed, I've already stated it will cost them no more than shipping charges to my front door.

End of discussion.

Thanks....again,

Jay.

[MonsterMag]

I have a fireblade from one of the first batches. It has no sear hole on the back, so instead of lengthening my trigger rod it has to be shortened to function. It works flawlessly now. I have it tuned so light. I can blow on it and it fires , yet shaking of the marker does not fire it.
Fireblades not only look great they shoot alot faster than the stock trigger.

[CoolHand]

No choice words needed CM, but you ought to know that we DO warranty our parts. No one need force me, I stand behind everything I've ever made.

Tuna - Who said you should warranty my triggers? I sure didn't. Also, who said that it was you who always starts the rumors? Again, it wasn't me. (Though it is kinda funny that you would get indignant about it.) My gripe in this situation is that only a very small percentage of markers ever have a problem. The problem is that most of the time, when someone from AGD says there might or could be a problem, certain folks on AO turn that into "You will have a problem, your sear will wear out in ten shots, AGD won't warranty your marker, and you'll be screwed!". This precedent was set long ago by the same folks that start the rumors. I don't know why things always go this way here, but they do.

These triggers were designed to drop into a stock EMag with the sear rod set to the stock length, and not bounce. The prototype was installed and tested for a good long while in Jay's XMag, and a brand new EMag I bought specifically for the purpose. If the tolerances of a specific marker all line up short, then you could have problems. I have heard from eight or ten people about their maker not firing in mech mode, out of the just under 200 FireBlades sold to date. That's a 5% chance of it not working the first time. That means that 95% of the time the thing will just drop right in and work like its supposed to. If you install one and end up having to take it apart the 5 or 6 times (like you said), then measure the durned thing when its done and write it down. Then the most you'd ever have to take one apart is twice.

What folks need to realize, is that any aftermarket part is going to void your manufacturer's warranty, for any marker. I don't know where this notion that AGD should warranty all sorts of modded markers came from, but it sure wasn't my idea.

We warranty our own parts, just like AGD, and just like every other manufacturer. Jay and myself have both said (on numerous occasions) that if the customer cannot make the trigger work, we will. If the trigger won't function at all (no matter who is installing it), then it gets replaced with one that will work. If we can't make it work, they get their money back. That's about as bullet proof of a warranty as you will get in paintball.

Its all this extraneous crap that makes it hard for me to justify more Mag products. I spend so much more time fighting false rumors and crap from people who really should not be trusted, than I ever do solving actual problems. And folks wonder why there aren't more aftermarket Mag parts.

[SpecialBlend2786]

What folks need to realize, is that any aftermarket part is going to void your manufacturer's warranty, for any marker. I don't know where this notion that AGD should warranty all sorts of modded markers came from, but it sure wasn't my idea.

We warranty our own parts, just like AGD, and just like every other manufacturer. Jay and myself have both said (on numerous occasions) that if the customer cannot make the trigger work, we will. If the trigger won't function at all (no matter who is installing it), then it gets replaced with one that will work. If we can't make it work, they get their money back. That's about as bullet proof of a warranty as you will get in paintball

eggzactly.

And I believe on the Fireblade product page it states quite clearly:

Jay's even a nice enough guy to install them for free if you like.

If you are having your trigger sent to Jay, please put this address in the ship to fields during checkout:
Jason Hunter
473 Magnolia St.
Ormond Beach,Florida 32176

With that as well as Logic's warrenty, i really dont see what the issue is here. And i dont see why anyone would pay to get Tuna to install it or why he should have to feel obliged to do it when both Jay and Ryan have said they will do it for free minus the cost of shipping.

[BigEvil]

Its all this extraneous crap that makes it hard for me to justify more Mag products. I spend so much more time fighting false rumors and crap from people who really should not be trusted, than I ever do solving actual problems. And folks wonder why there aren't more aftermarket Mag parts.

AMEN.

It this same crap that put the first throughts of retirment into Toms head too I bet.

[atm743]

Dang, I am waiting for my Fireblade trigger. I hope mine works.

you want to take a vise grip and take out the sear of the e-mag and make the sear pin longer

its really easy

take off the grips

get some niddle noise plyers and pull out the c clip

pull out sear

take vise grips and twist the sear pin to make it longer soo it will shoot in mech


make sure that you dont make it too long for e cuse there needs to be no bounce in e mode to make it leagal in ternements