Do you think the learning curve for paintball is high?

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  • Evil Bob
    Evil Overlord
    • Jul 2001
    • 1217

    #31
    Actually, Squid, Rabid is right on the money on this. Airball is much easier then woodsball in many factors...

    Terrain: Airball is usually on a flat open surface, the worst you usually have to worry about is tripping over inflatable anchors or the occasion gopher hole, usually well established sports fields where standard cleats are sufficient. Woodsball many people wear boots for the ankle support as turning your ankle can be quite common as the footing is not as good as it is on an airball field. Which field would you rather dive on? Airball or woodsball? Why?

    Foilage: Airball fields are usually quite clean brush wise, usually very few ground considerations to obstruct your feet other then the inflatable anchoring system and the occasional gopher holes. Woodsball you have to contend with poison oak/ivy, all kinds of brush, nettle, etc. Again, which field would you rather dive on? Usually people will only dive into poison oak/ivy once... and thats when they dont know what it is. A week later when all the hives stop itching, they're more aware of what not to dive into simply because thats one of the last things they ever want to do again as it is a truely miserable experience.

    Local wildlife: Airball fields are usually quite well established on sport fields, astro turf, carpeting, indoors, etc. where you dont have to worry too much about the local wildlife getting pissed off because you disturbed its home. How often has a family of rattle snakes come slithering out of a dorito because you hit it too hard? I've personally have had that happen on a woods field when I got close and personal with a fallen tree, tucked in real tight, next thing I knew there were snakes everywhere.

    Communication: Airball, being wide open, is much easier to communicate visually and verbally with your teammates. With the terrain differences alone, its much harder to keep tabs on your entire team in Woodsball without using radio gear for verbal level... usually visual is limited to a couple rows of tress. Additionally if you're playing on a large multi acre field, you can have your people spread out over such a large area so as to not be able to hear each other.

    Field size: The biggest airball field I've played on was 200 feet long, not even the full length of a regulation sized soccer or football field. The biggest woodsball field I played on covered 3 square miles. Try keeping track of where you are on a woods field that large where terrain features are not the blue dorito on the right or the red/white beer can in at the 50.

    strategy and tactics: Airball I equate to playing checkers, the moves and positioning are obvious and everything is pretty much what you see is what you get. Woodsball I equate more to the game of chess with half of the pieces not visible on the board. Woodsball typically takes the strategy and tactics to a whole different level over airball as terrain features alone have to be factored into the game plan.

    Multitasking: There is simply more crap to keep track of in your head while you're playing woodsball then there is while playing airball, thats just the nature of the beast. Not only do you need to worry about what the other guy is doing, you need to be very aware of what's going on around you environmentwise.

    Spectator friendly/Sideline coaching: Airball presents more sideline commenting simply because its a wide open field and people watching can usually see the entire field especially when they're in the stands. Airball is definitely hands down the more spectator friendly. Woodsball is quite the opposite, its extremely spectator unfriendly as trees and undergrowth tend to get in the way of people seeing what's going on.

    Sorry Squid, whether you can see it or not, you're quite wrong here.

    -Evil Bob

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    • Aslan
      Don't Ban Me...Love Me
      • May 2005
      • 954

      #32
      Good points.

      The one part of woodsball that makes it worse is the ability to get attacked from behind. If an opposing player gets behind you in speedball, it's because you passed out, fell asleep, or were trying to perform gun mods mid-game. In woodsball, as you advance forward, there's always a chance that an opposing player has slipped around you...and getting hit from behind when you don't expect is is about the worst feeling short of being bunkered.

      One thing that might make speedball harder is the size of the teams are usually smaller. What I mean by that is if you are playing woodsball and you lose a few guys...it's no big deal....because you probably have somewhere between 9 and an army. Some guys just wait around while players get eliminated. In speedball, if you lose a guy or two...the game can get really difficult really fast.

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      • -=Squid=-

        #33
        I didn't even read it.

        It's a stupid argument, neither is harder, and if you can't at the very least find a good medium to settle on, I'll just make up BS why speedball is harder. It is, duh.

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        • Evil Bob
          Evil Overlord
          • Jul 2001
          • 1217

          #34
          Originally posted by -=Squid=-
          I didn't even read it.

          It's a stupid argument, neither is harder, and if you can't at the very least find a good medium to settle on, I'll just make up BS why speedball is harder. It is, duh.

          Good `ol Squid, always right there with the predictable answer. I'm sorry you feel this is an argument, sofar it has been a rational discussion despite your injecting your usual negative responses.

          Try to keep an open mind, read the thread and its responses, put a little thought into your posts instead of the usual sarcastic negative dribble. Yes, I said open mind, people who "didn't even read it" dont have open minds as they're not willing to even consider anything outside their scope of thought or views on the world. Yes, your negative response tend to be very close minded.

          I for one would like to hear your thoughts on why you perceive speedball to be harder or why neither are difficult, please provide support/details (whether you feel you need to make stuff up or not is entirely up to you) for your reasoning, you may very well end up injecting useful perspective.

          As for finding a happy medium, no problem, there isn't one unless you take it down to the basic skill level of "shoot the other guy before they shoot you", that's about all they have in common, after that, the difficulty difference becomes quite obvious in the terrain each is played on. Basketball is easy on a basketball court, players are used to playing on a specific sized playing surface thats relatively free from obstructions, only the other players pose any sort of hinderance for you. Take them to a football field (vastly larger) and tell them to play basketball and the game has changed drasticly. Try dribbling a basketball on the grass for instance. Throw in some bunkers, a couple smoke generators and the game is near impossible to play. Put a big hill or two in the middle...

          That being said, the physical location alone can make paintball easier or harder on the players both physically and mentally. That was covered in my previous statement that you didn't bother to read, and I highly suspect you wont read this one either, so this is pretty much for the rest of those who are following along here.

          -Evil Bob

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