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**Lohman446** · 06-10-2005, 06:14 AM

Originally posted by MILKMAN

It's very sad to see that a simple debate on this forum gets closed. This is a public forum where opinions can be expressed. It sure is funny when a moderator uses his powers to close a thread when he doesn't agree. I would call it an abuse of powers. If you don't agree, fine, post that you don't agree but don't close the thread. It seems rather childish to abuse powers like that. If you don't feel like posting your disagreement, ignore it so others can. It seems as if many users and higher figures on this forum can't take a little heat or disagreement. Forum are used for debates, they are not flames; a cultured person would recognize this. There is not much I can say for the higher figures of this forum if things like this occurr all the time. You wonder why I don't have many posts, it's because I dont' visit this forum very often, partially because I don't own an Automag; now it will be because the forum is run like a "middle school gang." If I do get banned for this thread, it will prove my point further. Will I regret it, no.

It was your lack of respect to members in general, you're direct and rude response to a moderator when he asked you to tone it down that resulted in the thread closure. You're loosing credibility as a polite and reasonable person. Perhaps if you were a more established member you might get away with being rude and disrespectful towards others... but you're not so you don't.

Of course thats just my opinion... often wrong

**MILKMAN** · 06-10-2005, 06:15 AM

Originally posted by Lohman446

It was your lack of respect to members in general, you're direct and rude response to a moderator when he asked you to tone it down that resulted in the thread closure. You're loosing credibility as a polite and reasonable person. Perhaps if you were a more established member you might get away with being rude and disrespectful towards others... but you're not so you don't.

Of course thats just my opinion... often wrong

Lack of respect started with the other members, not with me. If somene doesn't respect me, I'm not going to respect back, rather simple.

**shartley** · 06-10-2005, 06:22 AM

**Lohman446** · 06-10-2005, 06:25 AM

Originally posted by MILKMAN

Lack of respect started with the other members, not with me. If somene doesn't respect me, I'm not going to respect back, rather simple.

Let's see here, a moderator went through, took out a few posts that were insulting to you and then made this request

Originally posted by MarkM

Milkman drop it! You don't feel that you got a deal so live with it, you got your money back and you don't wish to deal with this company anymore this is your right but causing arguements online is not a good thing.
There are more than enough positive dealings with this company that have been posted and a couple of negatives but they are all outweighed by the positives.

So you decided to tell a moderator no, that wasn't how you were going to do it.

Originally posted by Milkman

I'm expressing my opinion big guy. They don't want to argue, don't come to my post...seems simple enough.

Little hint... you want respect, you earn it. You do not earn it by telling a moderator to take a leap. If you want to be another controversial, aggressive member... well I suggest you find other topics. You came in here whining abuot a store and working in its rules, and then you show disrepsect not only to our member base but our moderators. I'm getting a better feeling what happened with your business dealings and why they did not go well.

**yakitori** · 06-10-2005, 07:40 AM

what makes your threads so different from other threads that flame and get closed. It has nothing to do w/ ppl that have been here longer. Higher post counts do nothing in terms of shutting down a thread. What, do you think we are all conspiring against you? I had never even heard of you before the xpb thread, and everything that needed to be said was said. Everyone stated their opinions and you couldnt take it. You were being unreasonable, and by starting this thread shows that more than likely you were not someone that xpb wanted to deal w/. I dont blame them. You act like everyone has a personal vandetta against you. Again. wrong. Nobody cares. You are the one acting like a "middle school" kid, by starting another thread about it. If you have an issue, heres a tissue.

**chairman_mao** · 06-10-2005, 07:42 AM

In before the lock

**TheTramp** · 06-10-2005, 08:02 AM

Me too! Me too!

**Soopa Villain17** · 06-10-2005, 09:02 AM

me 3

but i do think closing threads is dumb , why close them when u can delete them ? lesss crap on thje forum if u dlete em

**shartley** · 06-10-2005, 09:06 AM

Originally posted by Soopa Villain17

me 3

but i do think closing threads is dumb , why close them when u can delete them ? lesss crap on thje forum if u dlete em

By leaving the thread but closing it everyone can see what was actually said and how things went. If it was simply deleted people would claim things happened that simply did not. This way the membership can see it for what it was.

**wimag** · 06-10-2005, 09:20 AM

Not needed comments we had this already in the thread being complained about...MarkM

**Muzikman** · 06-10-2005, 09:45 AM

Ya know, I actually kinda felt sorry for you at the beginning, now you just proved to me that you have issues, and they were not caused by some internet paintball company or the moderators of this forum. Let's see, you joined back in 2003, you have 20 some post, 80% of which are of you whining about something. Do us a favor, go back to where you came from. AO does not need members like you.

**lopxtc** · 06-10-2005, 11:06 AM

Maybe its Starbase_CGI under another name

Aaron

**shartley** · 06-10-2005, 11:17 AM

Originally posted by Beemer

So ya know I pmd atm and a mod on this one.

Ya I agree. Then how come ATM743s' thread was deleted and not closed? Clearly there was RULE breaking and the action was to delete it. Instead of INFORCE the RULES. What a crock. If you have the hammer dont be afraid to swing it, I say. Let the mods do their job and if you dont like it Tuff.

Peace Out
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**MarkM** · 06-10-2005, 11:26 AM

Originally posted by Beemer

So ya know I pmd atm and a mod on this one.

Ya I agree. Then how come ATM743s' thread was deleted and not closed? Clearly there was RULE breaking and the action was to delete it. Instead of INFORCE the RULES. What a crock. If you have the hammer dont be afraid to swing it, I say. Let the mods do their job and if you dont like it Tuff.

Peace Out

Not deleted it was moved we still have the thread nice and safe and none of the posts themselves were worthy of a ban but it was degenerating into a flame fest and to have editted all the posts and kept some kind of continuity going with the thread was nigh on impossible so it was moved. After your PM to me I have been in discussion as I said I would and the answer has come back as "No the thread is not getting put back" All you have done now is reference something that cannot be seen (by the users) made an opinion (ref bans) and complained. I explained to you what was ban worthy and not via a PM 2 days ago. "Moved" is the best place for that particular thread. You had your reason of wanting to continue your "discussion" with another person who took part in the thread...no good would be served by this happening one or both of you might well have ended up risking a ban if things had possible got any more heated..this IS an assumption but rarely do threads that start to degenerate suddenly get better.

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