X-Valve + Level 7 Foamiless?

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  • Vex
    Superiorly Inferior
    • Jun 2001
    • 1871

    #1

    X-Valve + Level 7 Foamiless?

    Does anyone use this setup versus the Lvl 10? I get a LOT of chuffing with my L10. I'm thinking about switching to my L7 bolt to see if that cures the chuff.
    Any feedback?
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  • zackzel

    #2
    I'm running a level 7 in my X-mag, its the foami bolt, but I don't think that makes much difference, it won't make any chuffing sounds, however it also won't bounce off a ball if your gun doesn't have eyes or you don't have a super fast loader, it will chop the ball right in half. But yeah it works good, I like it better then the level 10, no tinkering whatsover. And you can keep your velocity alot lower.

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    • spectre184
      PF classic owner
      • Apr 2004
      • 228

      #3
      i used familess in 68automag and it can be picky on paint. Last time I couldn't get lvl 10 working and borrowed foamy bolt and didnt break one ball. Plus paint was over 1 year old.

      If you can try both bolts and see which you like better. You could probably find foamy bolt in BST forum pretty cheap.

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      • Vex
        Superiorly Inferior
        • Jun 2001
        • 1871

        #4
        I never chunked paint with my Minimag valve and Level 7 foamiless...so I'm not terribly concerned with chopping.
        Anyway, I think I'll give the old bolt a try.
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        • player4
          AO*WI
          • Jun 2004
          • 558

          #5
          Originally posted by zackzel
          I'm running a level 7 in my X-mag......And you can keep your velocity alot lower.
          I was able to shoot my lv10 at 230 fps no problem...........
          All black ULE RT Pro:
          x valve
          ule body
          intelliframe with dye sticky 3's
          nitroduck 68/45

          soon to have:
          something special.....hopefully

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          • TheTramp
            Registered User
            • Jan 2001
            • 4019

            #6
            Originally posted by phazeshifter
            Does anyone use this setup versus the Lvl 10? I get a LOT of chuffing with my L10. I'm thinking about switching to my L7 bolt to see if that cures the chuff.
            Any feedback?
            The "chuffing" is the bolt stopping on a ball. If you switch to a L7 bolt all those chuffs could turn into chops.
            "Relax. Don't worry. Have a Home Brew."
            -Charlie Papazian

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            • Vex
              Superiorly Inferior
              • Jun 2001
              • 1871

              #7
              Originally posted by TheTramp
              The "chuffing" is the bolt stopping on a ball. If you switch to a L7 bolt all those chuffs could turn into chops.
              Nope. It's chuffing without running any paint through the marker. I wonder if I'm not just massively short-stroking with my L10 and ULT... If I shoot slow and steady, then I don't have any problems; however, when I start to rapid fire, then I get massive chuffs, shootdown and almost 0 recharge.
              I've spent about an hour on the phone with AGD tech support on this and he was just as confused as I am.
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              • player4
                AO*WI
                • Jun 2004
                • 558

                #8
                Maybe because the lv10 o-ring isn't broken in yet........I have no idea.
                All black ULE RT Pro:
                x valve
                ule body
                intelliframe with dye sticky 3's
                nitroduck 68/45

                soon to have:
                something special.....hopefully

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                • TheTramp
                  Registered User
                  • Jan 2001
                  • 4019

                  #9
                  Originally posted by phazeshifter
                  Nope. It's chuffing without running any paint through the marker. I wonder if I'm not just massively short-stroking with my L10 and ULT... If I shoot slow and steady, then I don't have any problems; however, when I start to rapid fire, then I get massive chuffs, shootdown and almost 0 recharge.
                  I've spent about an hour on the phone with AGD tech support on this and he was just as confused as I am.

                  That's really strange. It does sound like you are short stroking but I thought that was hard to do with the ULT.
                  "Relax. Don't worry. Have a Home Brew."
                  -Charlie Papazian

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                  • Automaggot68

                    #10
                    When I bought my Halo B and Reloader B ditched my Lvl X kit. Infact when I traded off my
                    Last Xvalve (not including the one in my dallara) I even gave the guy most of my Lvl X stuff. Two extra bolts, springs, shims, etc etc.

                    Lvl X was always really iffy with me.
                    When i frist recived a kit int he mail with a mag i had bought, We brought it into a buddy's backyard, and fired off a hopper or to. NO chops, and it chuffe quite a few rounds. I was impressed. The Dumbarse I am I put a squeegee in the breech, fired, and botched it up good.

                    I really dont have a problem with chops with my 20pbs Hyperframe.

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                    • Vex
                      Superiorly Inferior
                      • Jun 2001
                      • 1871

                      #11
                      Originally posted by TheTramp
                      That's really strange. It does sound like you are short stroking but I thought that was hard to do with the ULT.
                      I thought the same thing. I really would like to get my L10 to work, whether I need it or not (I don't like having non-working parts)
                      I guess I'll have to look at the CD-Rom...if I can find the damned thing...
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