Do HP tanks regs doesnt need loctite?

[bambam]

I know this is about applying or not applying loctite but have anyone of you ever came across removing a reg in the clockwise rotation?

[RRfireblade]

Here's the deal and the reason why Paintball complicates matters.

Title 49CFR - Part 172 ? I don't recall exactly....covering the saftey and inspection of high pressure cylinders states that the threads of the cylinder must not be compromised in any way,shape or form. Locktite technically violates that standard when used on aluminum cylinders and 'should' qualify the tank as un-usable after it's application if the reg/Valve/whatever ever has to be removed.

It actually recommended that on aluminum straight threaded tanks that a thread lubricant be used to insure the integrety of the threads remain intact and reliable torque readings.

The complications come w/ paintball where 'we' need to A) constantly unscrew our tanks from the marker and B) Typically see a number of Hydro test cycles expire.

Safety unscrewing the tank without the Reg becomes a huge safety risk in paintballer's and as we know can easily become life threating.

So....

Technically and somewhat generally speaking, threadlocker should not be used on High pressure cylinders 'unless' recommended by the manufacture for safety and/or liability reasons. Any service done by an untrained and uncertified end user is AT HIS OWN RISK and makes him liable to any unforseen circumstances or tragedies.And BTW guilty of non compliance with a federally mandated certificaition.

[RRfireblade]

I know this is about applying or not applying loctite but have anyone of you ever came across removing a reg in the clockwise rotation?

HP cylinder threads have different spec'd threads (TPI,Orientaions) based on the intended pressure any fittings or valves are expected to see making it impossible to afix an incorrectly rated fixture to the wrong HP tank. After, I belive 5000psi, the threads do change to left hand in some applications. Personally I've never seen that in a paintball application but i guess it's possible if the cylinder rating permits it.

[automagking182]

On the topic, if you try to remove a regulator from any preset tank and you are unable to get it off with the means of a wrench, the chances are you are not ever gonna get the thing off without breaking it. My proshop wont even touch the tank with intentions of taking the reg off because the manufacturer {Centerflag} had not recommended or endorsed doing it. Yet I went on and had a friend of mine with a vice attempt to crack the locktite seal and in doing so the reg broke off.

The only thing you can do in this situation is resort to calling the manufacturer, and they still will probably tell you not to attempt to take the reg off because one, it could very easily break your reg and tank, and two, if you do somehow manage to get it off they probably wouldnt want you selling or putting it on another tank.

[Athius]

This is what crossfire told me today on my email the loctite is not REQUiRED!!

"The only reason they come standard loctited is for all of the 12
to 17
year old kids. This is the largest group playing the game. For our
liability and their safety we feel that we need to Loctite. Tournament
players are different. Not that any of you know what you are doing
(joke).
We can remove the reg for you and all you need to do is keep the
threads
greased very well to keep the threads from seizing from constant
screwing
and unscrewing.
I feel better doing it here because we have the right technique and
tools.
Your only expense will be freight. Cool?

Chris
President
Crossfire"

[TheTramp]

I don't suppose they told you what grease they recomended.

[Tunaman]

I got that torque rating from Carlton... unless I missed something lol Anywho, listen to the fish, not the bird brain. Either way, I still have yet to see loc-tite used on my air systems. So what is spec torque spec on the flatline anyway?

EDIT - I went diving around trying to find where I got the torque number from Carleton and came up with nothing, though I did stumble across Carleton's note not to use loc-tite on its cylinders.

EDIT Again - I found out where I got the Torque info from and it isn't from Composite cylinders, it's for Aluminum cylinders and it was the wrong number anyway (memmory appears to be going) anyway, Torque spec on Aluminum CO2 cylinders is 40lb-ft based on an 18 - unf thread.

tHE TORQUE SPEC ON A fLATLINE REG IS 25 FT LBS. This can only be attained properly with the use of a Flatline Regulator Installation tool. These are custom made and are not for sale. I will be happy to install a flatline reg for anyone that needs it.

[VFX_Fenix]

Thank you TunaMan, you're the best