Ops! I did it again. AO First Look.

[VFX_Fenix]

that's cool... but I have to say not a fan of the snatch grip.... why do you need one on the 'Mag anyway? isn't there enough behind the trigger frame to hang onto already?

[CoolHand]

that's cool... but I have to say not a fan of the snatch grip.... why do you need one on the 'Mag anyway? isn't there enough behind the trigger frame to hang onto already?

Well, it does look cool, and I can machine it off for you if you want one without.

I always assumed the same thing, but people went nuts over the other guy's snatch grip, so what do I know.

Anyway, I like the look, even if it doesn't actually do anything revolutionary.

[SpecialBlend2786]

Reminds me of the Cobra Fierce frames, and the CCM ones. Then again like you said it also reminds me of your own Shocker frames which, from what i have heard, rule. How much do you reckon they will be?

[Carbon Blue]

is it lighter than the intelliframe?

will it both have upper and lower trigger stops?

When you say "raw" will it be the same polished almost chrome looking scheme as deadlywinds karta bodies?

[CoolHand]

Weight is looking like ~6.7 ozs (I got no idea what the IFrame weighs, so I can't make the comparison).

Price will be very similar to the Shocker Frames they look like (no prices in PB talk ).

Upper trigger stop is fixed (its that bill on the front of the trigger). Lower stop and trigger rod contact are adjustable.

[SpitFire1299]

I chose Eh I really dont like the shape

Same with me.. i dont like how it has the thing coming out of the back like that.. its hard to say..

[FlawleZ]

I like it. Glad to see your creative mind is still at work for us AOer's to take advantage of. Keep it up!

[FlawleZ]

If you send the marker down, I will see what I can do. Should be able to modify one to fit it.

Nothing a few minutes with the dremel can't fix.

[VFX_Fenix]

I have another quesiton!!!!

How am I supposed to attach my Flatline to that rail w/o set screws to hold it in place!!!

I guess I'll just have to figure that one out later....

[CoolHand]

I have another quesiton!!!!

How am I supposed to attach my Flatline to that rail w/o set screws to hold it in place!!!

I guess I'll just have to figure that one out later....

You run a big set screw (which comes with the frame) up into one of the bottom line screw holes.

Then you slide on the flatline in question.

Then you use the aforementioned big set screw to jam it in place.

Easy peasy, though you need to remove the grips on one side to do it.

So THERE! Mr. Doubting Thomas.

I kid, I kid.

[shartley]

[Creative Mayhem]

I tend to agree with sam, the CCM snatch grip area with the dual grooves looks cooler

[CoolHand]

I started out like that (not the dual grooves, but the snatch grip all the way to the back), but it just looked obnoxous for some reason. Plus, that adds like 2" of metal that is 95% machined away (IE it adds significantly to both the material cost, and the machining time).

Maybe I should just ditch the snatch grip. I just thought it looked cool.

[shartley]

I started out like that (not the dual grooves, but the snatch grip all the way to the back), but it just looked obnoxous for some reason. Plus, that adds like 2" of metal that is 95% machined away (IE it adds significantly to both the material cost, and the machining time).

Maybe I should just ditch the snatch grip. I just thought it looked cool.

[CoolHand]

That's called slotting, and in aluminum its a bit tough without a coolant through spindle on your machine. Basically, the chips come out at such a copious rate, that they pile up in the slot and bind the tool. At best this wears the tool faster, at worst, it can break it and ruin your billet to boot.

I don't like to slot unless there is no other way around it, and when I do, I like to keep the width:height ratio at about 1.5:1 or lower.

Even if you slot it though, it does still waste that chunk of alum there. Overall I'd say it would add ~$10 to the cost of the part (in material and machine time).

That's basically why I didn't go any farther out with the snatch grip. The one I put on there added style without greatly impacting the weight of the part or the cost of manufacture.

Plus, I don't really want to just rip off CCM's look. I've already had people think that I took the idea for the not quite 90 deg frame from them, this would do nothing to help my crediblity. "No, I didn't borrow the angle . . . . . . but yeah, that snatch grip I got from them."