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  • Lohman446
    Useful posts: 7
    • Jun 2003
    • 9315

    #31
    Am I the only one? My local shop/field is knowledgeable and has always given me better prices than I could find on the net for major purchases (markers, air tanks, masks, hoppers, etc.). There service is awesome and the owner will even come in on days when he's not open to help us out. Considering I tech the equipment I can say the tech is kinda retarded but always manages to get things working again and seldom charges anyone labor and most of the time ends up giving out parts, and there is a second tech who can always seem to fix his screw ups too...


    "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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    • trevorjk
      <S>WooLooLoo</S>
      • Dec 2002
      • 4324

      #32
      Originally posted by Lohman446
      Am I the only one? My local shop/field is knowledgeable and has always given me better prices than I could find on the net for major purchases (markers, air tanks, masks, hoppers, etc.). There service is awesome and the owner will even come in on days when he's not open to help us out. Considering I tech the equipment I can say the tech is kinda retarded but always manages to get things working again and seldom charges anyone labor and most of the time ends up giving out parts, and there is a second tech who can always seem to fix his screw ups too...



      like i said in my first post on this thread.... paintball Sally' Paddock Lake WI... 5 of us that know our guns :-D great prices ( try to be only $5 above pbgear.com ) and even air conditioned with a tv and recliner thing!
      t33kyboy "So if a cat is dropped from 11 inches, it will most likely die."

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      • Aslan
        Don't Ban Me...Love Me
        • May 2005
        • 954

        #33
        Exploding Tanks

        Originally posted by SlartyBartFast
        I was beaten to it by JAM, but:



        For the sweet love of God!
        What's going to make you replace them?

        That date is there for your safety. The date is determined following strict industry guidelines.

        What is it that you know that the CO2 industry doesn't? Is saving a few bucks on a new tank worth risking your life?

        Hope you and the store that fill your out-of-date tank are ready for the criminal negligence charges and related lawsuits if your tank blows and injures someone.
        It's like this...I have 2 CO2 tanks that I bought new not too long ago. I also have 3 CO2 tanks that I pretty much just use to dryfire my markers after I clean them or use the tanks to test guns that I buy online. Of those 5 tanks...only one is technically able to be refilled. Now, I can understand tossing out a couple of the oldest ones...one is rusted and the other one has a bent nipple. I actually put that one (the last one) away for awhile, was going to toss it. But 3 of these tanks are in great shape. I'm talking like new. My 20oz has been filled maybe 12 times and totally babied. It's a joke that because it is now 5 years and 2 months old...it's going to explode spontaneously. Most stores will not fill old tanks. That's fine...good for them. Once the last of them says "No"...I'll probably toss out my old tanks. But no, I'm not afraid that they will explode. If I suspected a defect...even a hint of one...I would destroy the tank/discard it without a second thought. If every tank was in danger of explosion simply because it reached 5 years of age...the tank manufacturer would be sued big time by the first kid that used a tank that was 5 days and one minute old and exploded like a bomb. It is most likey that the date of 5 years is the date chosen because it is the earliest possible length of time that could lead to a problem if the tank is used a great deal for 5 straight years. Maybe that's not how it's decided, I'm not an authority on the subject...but I can almost gurantee that at 5 years the tank does not just explode.

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        • Lohman446
          Useful posts: 7
          • Jun 2003
          • 9315

          #34
          Don't play around me...

          Those tanks, if something goes wrong, are a danger to you and everyone around you. You do not have that right to expose us to those dangers, there are laws that say that. Personally I hope the DOT fines you personally for having out of date tanks filled. What, are you testing the integrity of that steel with your eyes?
          "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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          • Lohman446
            Useful posts: 7
            • Jun 2003
            • 9315

            #35
            Originally posted by Aslan
            but I almost gurantee that at 5 years the tank does not just explode.
            Please tell me you have a degree of expertise or experience in the subject
            when you make yourself the expert and override DOT regulations.

            Almost gaurentee that it won't explode.... almost. You risk the safety of everyone around you based on your expertise overriding DOT safety standards on an almost?
            "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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            • LudavicoSoldier
              Red Sox National
              • Jun 2003
              • 1743

              #36
              You must die! I alone am best!
              Red/Black Freeflow Lotus Racegun
              Red/Black Acid BPS Twister Cocker
              Bright Black Y-Grip/Warp ULE Mag
              Blue 99 Dark Angel w/Matching Accessories
              Matte Black Stock Class Sniper 2
              Feedback: http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread....&threadid=94972

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              • SlartyBartFast
                The Flying Scotsman
                • Jun 2002
                • 2940

                #37
                Originally posted by Lohman446
                Please tell me you have a degree of expertise or experience in the subject when you make yourself the expert and override DOT regulations.

                Almost gaurentee that it won't explode.... almost. You risk the safety of everyone around you based on your expertise overriding DOT safety standards on an almost?
                QFT.

                Let's see. Decades (centuries?) of engineering experience, the work of countless experts, numerous industries, and regulators in numerous countries.

                Not to mention the fact that all that work was done due to failures, injuries, and deaths.

                All that trumped by "I think it's fine." and the power of the naked eye.

                Even if a tank was NIB and past it's date, too bad for you. Those filling it and those that have to standing or playing around you have no proof whatsoever about how the tank has been treated.

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