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[SlartyBartFast]

I can't see spending that much on a mech gun when for less than $300, I can get a great gun with break beam eyes, rebound, and interchangeable bodies cheap.

It's simple. You come back in 5 years with your fully functional 300$ electro.[/sarcasm]

Some people aren't fashion posers and don't place huge value in interchangeable bodies.

Some people don't think a product like a paintball marker should need upgrades at all to function increadibly well.

Some people want to develop shooting skills and not spray paint.

Some people want to save some money and waste less paint.

Some are all of the above.

Somepeople are willing to pay upwards of 600$ for a pump. Why? Because they know quality. Because that's their style of play.

[p8ntball72]

^^^^ beat me to it^^^^
warped1... hey hold on to that ION... contact me in 12 years and tell me how it shoots.
"Mags rule Ion's drool"

[WARPED1]

How come when I make a post about how my Ion is better than your mag, I get banned?! But you guys can flame my gun choice with absolute impunity?! Not fair............
And here, I wasn't even flaming the mag, just pointing out how it's not a good value for your money.

Saying "its not a good value for your money" is bashing. Learn how to type in context so people know what you REALLY mean. What value are you comparing it to anyway? All of My mags have more value for the money than any other gun I can think of. You are basically spewing trash out of your mouth again. Careful young lad...

[deadbox101]

Sorry man but that statement isnt legit. If hes a tourney player in 1 maybe 2 years hell have a new gun anyways, who knows what the future will bring. Thats spefically why the ion is a good investment, low price with all the advantages of higher ends and then when you go to move on to some new, revoultionary gun you didnt blow 1k on a marker.

I love my mag and i will continue to use it for tourneys but thats because i feel its all i need for my level of play, others are different and want what they feel is the best for them.

[p8ntball72]

I come to this board because I love my mag and as an owner over the last 12 years I have continued to put coin into AGD's pocket.

I'm glad you guys like your IONs... dont they have a owners group?

[deadbox101]

i dont even own an ion i own a automag and i love it. But maybe he has both and enjoys this form.

[WARPED1]

I come to this board because I love my mag and as an owner over the last 12 years I have continued to put coin into AGD's pocket.

I'm glad you guys like your IONs... dont they have a owners group?

It just pisses me off that I get banned just because my opinion differs. I have even said repeatedly, that the mag is not a bad gun, I just don't like the looks and it doesn't usually fit my style of play. That's all, but you guys get to flame any gun you want, as long as it's not a mag?! Hypocrites....................

[Miscue]

It just pisses me off that I get banned just because my opinion differs. I have even said repeatedly, that the mag is not a bad gun, I just don't like the looks and it doesn't usually fit my style of play. That's all, but you guys get to flame any gun you want, as long as it's not a mag?! Hypocrites....................

What the heck are you talking about? There's no way you got banned for that. Show me the URL.

[tsc]

It just pisses me off that I get banned just because my opinion differs. I have even said repeatedly, that the mag is not a bad gun, I just don't like the looks and it doesn't usually fit my style of play. That's all, but you guys get to flame any gun you want, as long as it's not a mag?! Hypocrites....................

Ahem.

WARPED1 - 3 days - user harrassment and inappropriate posting.

[Vex]

I just don't like the looks

Yet you like the looks of the ION and Shocker...

[Tunaman]

How come when I make a post about how my Ion is better than your mag, I get banned?! But you guys can flame my gun choice with absolute impunity?! Not fair............
And here, I wasn't even flaming the mag, just pointing out how it's not a good value for your money.

Saying "its not a good value for your money" is bashing. Learn how to type in context so people know what you REALLY mean. What value are you comparing it to anyway? All of My mags have more value for the money than any other gun I can think of. You are basically spewing trash out of your mouth again. Careful young lad...

and no one here really cares that "my Ion is better than your mag". Isn't there a SP forum you can take that to? I am sure they will even appreciate it alot more.

[WARPED1]

Ahem.

I got two emails from Tunaman saying I have no constitutional rights because this is a privately owned forum, and was banned because I bash mags, which I don't, I've said repeatedly that the mag is not a bad gun.
And I didn't harass anyone, in fact I got flamed and replied with a flame. I got banned, the other person did not.

and no one here really cares that "my Ion is better than your mag". Isn't there a SP forum you can take that to? I am sure they will even appreciate it alot more.

It's not bashing at all. It's this thing no one here is familiar with. It's called an opinion, look it up.

[warbeak2099]

Nope, it isn't a good value compared to other guns on the market.

BUT, it is worth what you pay for it. A mag is made with a alot of quality and precision. Thus people are willing to pay the extra money for a mech gun. Mags and Blazers are probably the best mech guns out there. And they cost a tad more than the average mech cocker. AGD spends a lot to make them, so we pay more. It's like this:

You buy a Dodge Neon which has 230hp. Peice of crap domestic car. But it only costs around $20k. Now another car on the market is the BMW 325i. It'll cost you around $28-29k, and it won't have as much horsepower. About 184hp. BUT, it's a way better quality car. Yes, the neon has more horespower and it's cheaper, but some people care more about quality and precision. See what I'm getting at?

[JimmyBeam]

A mag is made with a alot of quality and precision. Thus people are willing to pay the extra money for a mech gun. Mags and Blazers are probably the best mech guns out there. And they cost a tad more than the average mech cocker. AGD spends a lot to make them, so we pay more. It's like this:

well how much longer do you thing its going to last? 5 years maybe? when a company doesnt care enough to come out with a better product (yes it can be improved on) its gonna die. because eventually even the loyalists will realize that its outdated, looks arent everything. even though rogue, tuna and a few others really did a great job on it.

and then i'll hear "but it cycles at 26 bps"...... wait, werent you just complaining about ramping? becasue you know you arent pulling the trigger 26 times a second.

and yes there will be those who choose to live in the 90s, while everyone else chooses to use a more recent innovation. (cough..at least a thousand shots per 68/45) IMO the only thing the xmag has over the Ion is looks, and Nicad will fix that soon


flame on....i have a miller lite/jim beam flame proof jacket tonight

[NASurfer]

and then i'll hear "but it cycles at 26 bps"...... wait, werent you just complaining about ramping? becasue you know you arent pulling the trigger 26 times a second.

I think you are quoting arguements from different people here. I do agree on that point though, the advertised 26 bps recharge rate is very overrated. Its a moot point to advertise 26 bps valve recharge rate on a mech frame.

But all that aside, i'll take my mag over an ion anyday. Ive played with an ion. It was alright. But comparing an ion to a mag is comparing apples to oranges. They just arent the same thing to compare each other to. Yea you get the rate of fire with an ion, but with a mag, theres no question about its durability. (theres some people here who havent changed an oring in what? 10 years?). Once I get my predator'd electro frame in you can throw that ROF arguement out the window also. Seeing on how the mag design is so freaking bulletproof, and now we are getting electro frames that can take advantage of the amazing recharge rate, you know I dont mind shelling out the extra dough for it.