Laser Trigger(LTD) released...

[ojhspyro89]

WDP is going to sue. Seriosly coming from WDP. I think it came from owen, but yeah, they are going to sue.

I remember when owen (dont quote this) said sp was ruining paintball by sueing, now WDP is the freaking nazis....

[WARPED1]

it wont sell, its 350 for the damn system, and its tourny illegal, nuff said

Why is it illegal? One "pull" is one shot, semi auto. Sonds legal to me, hopefully it'll come down in price.

[Lohman446]

Its not legal, all current (major) rules require movement of the trigger to fire - and they talk about the plane of movement and direction. This can be fired by breaking it from any direction with movemetn towards any direction = not legal.

I see it as a safety hazard as others pointed out.

I see it as not being any faster as others pointed out - I like to ahve some trigger feel.

I see it being far to expensive as others pointed out

I see it failing - as others pointed out...

[WARPED1]

It might fail. But look at the Spyder rocking trigger. It was thought to be illegal, but as explained by Chuck, it's NPPL lega(keep in mind Kingman is a major NPPL sponsor.:))

[warbeak2099]

I don't see how it's a bad deal though if the system is impervious to flying bits. For $325 you get an upgrade board that's similar to Advantage and Predators and the Laser system. That's around $160 for the board and $165 for the laser system. I'm willing to bet that system isn't cheap. Plus the milling of the frame is included in that too.

[Chronobreak]

cool idea, however i dont think ti should be allwoed because there is no pull and or release.

but since when is there any p-ball rules..



as a ref i see this as more of a safety hazard than anything

[AGD202]

honestly, how often do you see a damn piece of shell or something stuck to the side of your trigger???? tell me that... and then ull see y that trigger would not be more dangerous than most guns out already. if anything this trigger would make the sport even more safe because of the fact that you can not walk as fast, not that being overshot hurts anything either.
this trigger seems more like a showgun kind of thing than anything else

What happens when some peice of shell/debrie flies through the trigger gaurd while playing. Players lay a lot of paint down today and it's not uncommon to have hails of paint and shell fly off of the side of a bunker. That would be ridiculous. You have no control over the trigger system. Impractical. I think touchpad triggers are a better idea.

The movies are cool and all, but what happens when you get out on the field? I think at that point you lose control over the gun's firing. Once you add in flying debrie and all that junk you've got a problem. And that's just indoors. At an outdoor field it'd be even more of a loss of control. The price isn't a problem though. It's $325 for the laser triggering system and the NoX board, which seems like not that bad a board.

However, I would like to see a vid of someone playing with one and some more information out of LTD on the matter of flying debries/bugs/etc. If they do indeed prove that the system they've created is not affected by these things, then I think it might be a neat upgrade. But I could never handle having a gun that I don't have control over.

[ThePixelGuru]

I think I could walk/fan this trigger faster than any other on the market. Still, I wouldn't buy it, though. Having no trigger would just be too odd. When you're not firing, where do you hold your fingers? Hovering out in the middle of nowhere seems kind of odd, and outside of the guard is too far away. Seems pretty unusable, but I still want to try one.

[Lurker27]

The kingman trigger is illegal. It's just not enforced.

This is illegal because of the "movable lever" clause.

There's so much that can be done with analog trigger input, and we still putz around with stupid stuff like this. A trigger that requires no rhythm. A trigger that can st its own debounce parameters.

[WARPED1]

No, in an interview with Chuck on WARPIG, he said it was completely legal if set up correctly, kind of like RT's I guess...........

[LudavicoSoldier]

Wait wait arent those illegal? I coulda sworn triggerless triggers were outlawed?

[MaChu]

Seen it before along time ago. Way back when there was a video on the internet from The Wiseguys of a silver Bushmaster 2000 with special gloves which mimiced the same thing. Old idea, been done.

[Target Practice]

Gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay.

[PsychoBaller]

As many have already said, but simply stated here... Saftey is the first issue for this gun to overcome. Trigger guard is really no protector of a break-beam sensor system. Not gonna be allowed for non-safety issues.

[warbeak2099]

honestly, how often do you see a damn piece of shell or something stuck to the side of your trigger???? tell me that... and then ull see y that trigger would not be more dangerous than most guns out already. if anything this trigger would make the sport even more safe because of the fact that you can not walk as fast, not that being overshot hurts anything either.
this trigger seems more like a showgun kind of thing than anything else

Yes, actuallt I have got debries stuck inside my trigger gaurd. Almost every time I play it happens. Stranger things can happen. There's a lot of crap flying around on a paintball field. Especially outdoors. Unless the beams can only be broken by fingers somehow, the gun could potentially go nuts without the user's control.