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  • Webmaster
    Former Moderator

    • Oct 2000
    • 1765

    #16
    Typically when advertising a product, one lists the FEATURES and BENEFITS. Now, WarpedSports has a list as long as your arm on new FEATURES? What, if any, are the true benefits of thier IR3?

    There are some new benefits, but they dont really make it clear. I mean, if I made a new emag with new "wonder bolt" - which was just a basic AGD bold with a 4 star vs 3 star insert - there wouldnt be a benefit, its just different.

    There are people who like the gadgetude involved, but generally, if people dont see the VALUE of such features, then they are less likely to shell out the cash.

    Of course, people still buy features with NO benifits (Feature, add an ANS front in to your STO Cocker. Benifit, none, you just swapped out parts that acutally arent as good for the most part)

    Still there are others who will buy it just so they can say they have what is percieved as "the best"

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    • Muzikman
      Everything AGD
      • Dec 2000
      • 6229

      #17
      You know what I hate about it? The price Tag. I would love to see how some of these things work, The trap door feed, the anti-chop eye (sounds more advanced than the AGD idea), and the Grip / Trigger assembly. It sounds like a lot of complicated adjustments, but if it works once it's set, I think it's a cool idea.

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      • Blazini
        Registered User
        • Jun 2001
        • 70

        #18
        Out of all the features that are listed on the new angel the only thing that sounds like an improvement to my ears is the ACE. I rode the WDP bandwagon for a year and in that time I got pretty decent at trouble shooting sick angels. Probably because every conceivable thing that could go wrong with them happened to mine. I just hope that wdp has spent as much time fixing the problems that existed as they have cramming more stuff in there to break. I better sign off on this one, my E-mag just told me it needed a shot of oil.
        Blazini

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        • FooTemps
          HURRRR
          • Sep 2001
          • 6702

          #19
          Re: Too many haters...

          Originally posted by manike
          Guys why hate things so much? People seem to want to slag it off just because it isn't an AGD product.



          So you think an anti chop device and a more ergonomic grip are dumb? Did you think that, when AGD said they would be doing it with their products?

          Also you think the fact that they are trying to ensure you always have a ball ready to be loaded is dumb?

          You think the ability to fine tune a timer is dumb? These are things all players should appreciate. Some of the other stuff is just 'fluff', but it certainly isn't all dumb.



          It's not the same Angel. It is the same basic design operation but it is a different body (smaller and lighter) and it has different internals which are designed to be improved, faster and smoother and more consistant. The basic concept is the same, some parts are improved and it has lots of new features. Some of the features are useful some are not, but most of them are quite cool.

          It's sad to see people hating just for the sake of it.

          manike
          I see your point but it's still crazy that an angel could double as one of those messenger things. You know, the text beepers from motorolla were cool but adding it in an angel is kinda extreme. I don't even want an emag because it wouldn't benifit. I feel exactly the same for the angel. If I wanted an angel with improved stuff like the ir3 I would wait for one without all the nifty doo-dads and gadgets on it. I just want a hardcore paintball gun with only the necessities. I think that if they made the ir3 with features like the emag without manual it would be awesome.

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          • gimp
            Registered User
            • Jan 2001
            • 2368

            #20
            I think it sounds pretty cool actually. It seems like I could have more fun just sitting in my house playing with it than actually playing paintball. If I had a spare 1500 bucks lying around I'd probably pick one up. I am really curious about that 3 pivot trigger or whatever it is. I bet it will sell very very well. I'm gonna have to stick with my emag for now. I'll get an extreme body at some point.

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            • mrhooie
              paintball enthusiast
              • Sep 2001
              • 517

              #21
              every body is missing the point


              if a new piece comes out...someone will buy it ---probably an experienced paintballer

              what happens to his old marker? well, it either becomes a back up or is sold to another paintballer

              well, what happens to that paintballer's old marker? it gets sold to another paintballer and so on and so on and so on..

              BUT - what breaks the chain? When it is sold to a new paintballer..

              It gets more people in the game and helps our sport grow..

              Don't worry about - 20bps in the hand of player won't neccissaiily put you out - it will only make you a better player....

              It's like vehicles...Why a 2002 GMC Avalanche when a 1970 suburban will still get you around

              my thoughts - I could be wrong

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              • PaInTbAlLeR476
                Rockin' the Cocker
                • Dec 2001
                • 512

                #22
                THE NEWEST ANGEL IS THE WORST OF THEM ALL, IT HAS A SCALE THAT MEASURES THE WEIGHT OF THE BALLS AND PUTS THE RIGHT AMMOUNT OF PRESSURE FROM THE BOLT ONTO THEM SO THEY DONT BREAK, JESESU CHRIST PRETTY SOON ILL BE ABLE TO FIGURE OUT MY OWN WEIGHT BUY SHOOTING A FRICKING PB GUN, IF A MAG AINT GOOD ENOUGH FOR YOU NOTHING IS
                Rockin' the Cocker.



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