ICD ProMaster (AKA b2k5)

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • slade
    Carpe Noctem
    • Apr 2004
    • 3442

    #76
    back to the topic: i just shot a promaster while on chrony duty yesterday and it was NICE, nicest new marker in that price range ive ever seen. easily competes with my freestyle. great looks, small and smooth.

    simon - do you know what kind of efficiency to expect with the pressure/dwell settings you recommend? also would higher pressure/lower dwell add to the kick?
    xvalve, ule body, logic vert frame, WWA barrel
    68/30 PE nitro tank
    cp unimount
    halo B

    Comment

    • manike
      INCEPTIONDESIGNS.COM

      • Jan 2001
      • 3820

      #77
      1250 on a 68/4500 psi are realistic numbers right up at 290fps, I hear of 1500... but haven't counted that accurately yet, so can't verify it.

      These are on stock guns.

      I have found a little help with the valve, and a decent reg and a low pressure tank set up can help.

      In general the efficiency is pretty similar, if not better, than one of the older bushmasters.

      AT some point I'll tune my gun in and go for some more accurate numbers, but right now I am busting to get new toys ready for world cup.

      Higher lpr pressure and shorter dwell can give you a little more 'kick' when dry firing, but I've found with paint, and a loader and the gun in your shoulder than you don't notice it, and the gun actually kicks very little. Unless you put it onto NXL mode unlimited and then it can tend to lift.
      Inception Designs - My new company where Innovation is the Inspiration

      Comment

      • Creative Mayhem
        AO's OFFICIAL CANUCK
        • Apr 2002
        • 3633

        #78
        Originally posted by manike
        Unless you put it onto NXL mode unlimited and then it can tend to lift.

        LOL.. leave it to simon to do that...



        Owner:Purple People Eater - AFTICA XMAG
        Data Drops Tunamart Havoc_Online TheMagSmith Deadlywind LoadSM5Graphics

        Comment

        • Rather
          Registered User
          • Nov 2002
          • 757

          #79
          Do these like LP tanks over HP tanks? or will it not matter either way if its properly tuned with a HP tank?

          Asking because I am selling my gun to get one of these and want to know if i get to scrap my HP tank along with the gun to get a LP tank.

          Thx.

          Comment

          • manike
            INCEPTIONDESIGNS.COM

            • Jan 2001
            • 3820

            #80
            You can use either tank.
            Inception Designs - My new company where Innovation is the Inspiration

            Comment

            • Pullman
              I has Fireblade for sale!
              • Feb 2003
              • 713

              #81
              Hey I have a dumb question you may be able to help me with. I should have my Promaster by the end of the week. It's my first ICD marker. I'm pretty stoked.

              Anyhow I have a 68/3000 Flatline. I have heard that I can't really turn it below a 650 PSI output and get decent flow. Is this the case? If so should I turn it down to 650 so I don't overwork the Promaster reg? Or can I just leave it at 850 since it doesn't seem to matter whether you use an HP or LP tank? I've heard stories about blown solenoids and what not, but frankly have no idea what any of that means. Prior to this I have only owned Tippmanns and mech-Mags.

              Thanks,

              Marlin
              Rehme, Derman 2k, Ryal 999, Lord Whoopass, 50 Cal, Tack, RTrampage and Deathstalker are all good traders

              My Feedback
              http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=100494

              Comment

              • slade
                Carpe Noctem
                • Apr 2004
                • 3442

                #82
                Originally posted by Pullman
                Hey I have a dumb question you may be able to help me with. I should have my Promaster by the end of the week. It's my first ICD marker. I'm pretty stoked.

                Anyhow I have a 68/3000 Flatline. I have heard that I can't really turn it below a 650 PSI output and get decent flow. Is this the case? If so should I turn it down to 650 so I don't overwork the Promaster reg? Or can I just leave it at 850 since it doesn't seem to matter whether you use an HP or LP tank? I've heard stories about blown solenoids and what not, but frankly have no idea what any of that means. Prior to this I have only owned Tippmanns and mech-Mags.

                Thanks,

                Marlin
                very few guns require LP tanks. the promaster inline reg should be able to handle 800+ psi fine, my freestyle has (same reg). a blown noid will only occur if your LPR is way too high, and it somehow doesnt vent the air.
                xvalve, ule body, logic vert frame, WWA barrel
                68/30 PE nitro tank
                cp unimount
                halo B

                Comment

                • manike
                  INCEPTIONDESIGNS.COM

                  • Jan 2001
                  • 3820

                  #83
                  I'd turn it down as far as you can and still get good performance. It may be one of those things you just tune in when you get the gun.

                  If you don't want to mess with it, and the tank works great as it is, then just run it as you have been. You'll be fine.
                  Inception Designs - My new company where Innovation is the Inspiration

                  Comment

                  • slade
                    Carpe Noctem
                    • Apr 2004
                    • 3442

                    #84
                    Originally posted by manike
                    I'd turn it down as far as you can and still get good performance. It may be one of those things you just tune in when you get the gun.
                    why, what advantage will that have? (besides possibly better efficiency) because isnt it best to have a few 100 psi difference between regs to keep it from having a slow recharge? i dont think it would be that easy to see at what (tank) PSI the recharge of the HPR will be effected at.
                    xvalve, ule body, logic vert frame, WWA barrel
                    68/30 PE nitro tank
                    cp unimount
                    halo B

                    Comment

                    • onedude36
                      Registered User
                      • Feb 2005
                      • 943

                      #85
                      manike, i want your job someday.
                      "Don't stoned i'm shoot" -someoneiforget

                      Comment

                      • slade
                        Carpe Noctem
                        • Apr 2004
                        • 3442

                        #86
                        Originally posted by onedude36
                        manike, i want your job someday.
                        get in line.
                        xvalve, ule body, logic vert frame, WWA barrel
                        68/30 PE nitro tank
                        cp unimount
                        halo B

                        Comment

                        • manike
                          INCEPTIONDESIGNS.COM

                          • Jan 2001
                          • 3820

                          #87
                          Originally posted by slade
                          why, what advantage will that have?
                          You answered your own question.

                          Originally posted by slade
                          (besides possibly better efficiency)
                          It's marginal but it seems to help. That's why I was saying it is useful, but not a major issue.

                          Originally posted by slade
                          isnt it best to have a few 100 psi difference between regs to keep it from having a slow recharge?
                          Yes. But then the Promaster runs at between 250 and 290 psi. So 450-500 input would be great.

                          I always like running at the lower pressures, especially through things like the macroline fittings etc. Just gives you a better factor of safety.
                          Inception Designs - My new company where Innovation is the Inspiration

                          Comment

                          • jesusjuice
                            Registered User
                            • Dec 2005
                            • 1

                            #88
                            ya buy from murder inc chris gave me a new promaster and 3 day shipping for 355. GREAT PRICE

                            Comment

                            • hardr0ck68
                              I miss Tom
                              • Oct 2001
                              • 783

                              #89
                              When did ICD "pair up" with NPS? No offense, i have just never been a fan of national, they are like the black hole of paintball sucking up and compressing the heck out of any company that gets to close (or makes a decent product).

                              Is the promaster internally the same as a defiant/timmy? what noid does the promaster run?
                              Tom was the last of a now extinct breed, a breed of players who build a community, a breed of owners who gave to the sport never taking more than what they deserved. I hope to see you at the feild again some day....

                              Comment

                              • BuyMyMag
                                God Bless Our Troops
                                • Apr 2005
                                • 371

                                #90
                                Way to bring up and OLD thread.

                                Comment

                                Working...