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you're right, the presence of reasonable debate is all but gone. It seems all debate here ends in the "veterans" coming along and calling mags, AO and anything more than a week old dead and not worth talking about.
frankly if someone sees something as stupid or not worth discussing... frankly why start troll posting just to make the point that you think that. Thread makers don't care what the anti-posters think.
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i hate the resale valve...
but then again i got a 3.2 (ss body) emag for 350."Ah yes, I have one of the 32*rebels that I always take to big scenario games. It keeps the truck from rolling if I have to park on a hill." - automikey
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I agree that there needs to be a swing eventually that brings prices down some on markers. I can buy a good shotgun (Beretta) with case, interchangeable choke tubes, etc. for less than I can buy a Matrix for. Granted I can spend upwards of 100K on a shotgun, but those are works of art and few and far between.Originally posted by BigEvilScore !!!
Economics are amazing. Maybe in a year or two retail prices will come down to Earth as well."Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess
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There will always be a high end market in paintball. It will also probably be bigger by percentage than most other markets. For whatever reason, we have the "Newest, fastest, fanciest" mentality.Originally posted by Lohman446I agree that there needs to be a swing eventually that brings prices down some on markers. I can buy a good shotgun (Beretta) with case, interchangeable choke tubes, etc. for less than I can buy a Matrix for. Granted I can spend upwards of 100K on a shotgun, but those are works of art and few and far between.
Trends will always be, but I would like to see the ION-EFFECT on the market. Meaning, I think that some of these bigger manufacturers can start making more reasonably rpiced high-end markers. Why is a DM5 $1300 retail? What is the wholesale to retail markup? 8%? Pathetic. The paintball community needs more reasonable pricing on certain things. Paint, for one. I am seeing lots more fields offer BYOP, either days or regularly. Competition is so much more benaficial to us consumers.
Im am hoping that as some of these manufacturers have more and more resourses available to them, the cost of production comes down. Many times consumers wont be directly affected, since the market will allow a manufacturer to sell that same product for a ridiculous price. Now, things are so oversaturated and there are so many choices that companies have to get creative.
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I agree. Lower paint prices and the movment twords BYOP (or at least being allowed to get you paint at the field's proshop for resanable prices which is fine with me) are one of the few positive changes going on in PB today.Originally posted by BigEvilPaint, for one. I am seeing lots more fields offer BYOP, either days or regularly. Competition is so much more benaficial to us consumers."Relax. Don't worry. Have a Home Brew."
-Charlie Papazian
Feedback: http://www.automags.org/forums/showt...threadid=40134
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Well, with the market dropping it makes assembling older mags extremly nice. You can build a used mag, with powerfeedbody and vertical inline for roughly $120 if you can find parts. Thats awesome. I love older parts and am having a blast with this. I LIKE markers that in a pinch can be used as a hammer. Trigger speed? Waste of paint when on a tight budget. I run a Classic mag with NO LX. And it runs better than most X-valves I have seen.
Alot of fields in michigan are going from BYOP to FPO... which is terrible. Hell survivors has an awesome field, and great events, yet recently went to FPO... and their paint is advertised as and I quote "Blood Red Fill."Mango= Hero
Moods mango creates:
:clap: :tard: :rofl: :cuss: :dance: :rolleyes:
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Well said man but another thing I may add is the price of Xmag dropping to around 600-500 I saw that deviled xmag sell for 950 i think. You cant sell xmags at 1200 like you useto be able to.Euro E-mag | TL63 | XMOD| EM01610
Euro Rt | OG | RT02382.
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