cheating and unsportsman like conduct

[Resurection]

The rules exist.. does enforcement?

Damn, the short version of the rules I found recently didn't include that. Can anyone tell me where to find the complete rules for NPPL, NXL, etc? I am interested in some toilet reading.


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[Lohman446]

Damn, the short version of the rules I found recently didn't include that. Can anyone tell me where to find the complete rules for NPPL, NXL, etc? I am interested in some toilet reading.


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http://www.nppl.tv/2005-Rules-final-3-1-05.pdf

More Nppl info at nppl.tv

[Resurection]

http://www.nppl.tv/2005-Rules-final-3-1-05.pdf

More Nppl info at nppl.tv

Thank you. seems the word doc i had was a local tourney's edited version/adaption/canabilation of those rules.

Anything for NXL out there? How about good 'ol X-Ball or is that absorbed into NXL now?

[Lohman446]

Thank you. seems the word doc i had was a local tourney's edited version/adaption/canabilation of those rules.

Anything for NXL out there? How about good 'ol X-Ball or is that absorbed into NXL now?

http://www.pspevents.com

PSP home page, which should cover PSP and X-ball events. I did not see the rules on a glance.

[hitech]

If you can't understand and enforce the ones you have, what chance do new rules have?

[FSU_Paintball]

Players don't get fined in other sports for cheating, that I can think of.

Also, you need to pay them like professionals before you fine them like professionals.

[Resurection]

Players don't get fined in other sports for cheating, that I can think of.

Have you seen or heard ANY of the steroid issues in major league sports? Definte fines/penalties for breaking those rules.

Every time a flag is thrown, or a player sent to the penalty box in football/hockey is someone getting punished for breaking a rule (aka cheating).

Severity of penalty depends on severity of rule break. Does it stop people from breaking the rules? No, but it does have direct impact on games, and it is (usually) strickly enforced.

[FSU_Paintball]

I didn't say they didn't get punished. I said they didn't get fined.

And pro players get fined for ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES. That goes beyond cheating.

I absolutely agree with you in the sense that the problem lies in having no cut-and-dry punishment rules and enforcement.

[Resurection]

I didn't say they didn't get punished. I said they didn't get fined.

And pro players get fined for ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES. That goes beyond cheating.

Point being that illegal or not, there is a rule against some legal drugs because they are deamed as cheating to the sport. Thus fines and suspensions.

[Lohman446]

NPPL rules make most decisions on field cut and dry. The rules are rather well written (in my opinion). For instance obvious and unobvious hits are very clearly spelled out within the rules. What is lacking is enforcement... both at NPPL events and local events that claim to follow NPPL rules.

[Resurection]

NPPL rules make most decisions on field cut and dry. The rules are rather well written (in my opinion). For instance obvious and unobvious hits are very clearly spelled out within the rules. What is lacking is enforcement... both at NPPL events and local events that claim to follow NPPL rules.

Only solution to that is to unify the officials and begin to enforce consistency with the rules and refs. Maybe I will take up this cause. I am a glutton for punishment. :)

[FSU_Paintball]

Point being that illegal or not, there is a rule against some legal drugs because they are deamed as cheating to the sport. Thus fines and suspensions.

My point is you don't see the pros getting fined for most acts that aren't illegal. So you can't really compare cheating in paintball to assaulting a photographer or taking steroids.

[SlartyBartFast]

My point is you don't see the pros getting fined for most acts that aren't illegal. So you can't really compare cheating in paintball to assaulting a photographer or taking steroids.

NASCAR drivers get fined BIG money if they swear on camera.

[Resurection]

My point is you don't see the pros getting fined for most acts that aren't illegal. So you can't really compare cheating in paintball to assaulting a photographer or taking steroids.

Believe it or not, there are fines placed almost every day during season in all sports for all types of infractions and stupid stuff. But fining a guy $10,000 when he makes three or four times that in one night just doesn't really have much impact eaither.

[FSU_Paintball]

Well then, if we fine the paintball players one third or fourth of what they make that day.... we'd probably be paying most of them

Stupid stuff, yes. Cheating, no. I don't see many if any fines for cheating that doesn't cross the line into illegal territory.

Regardless, paintball players by and large are not salaried and therefore fining is inappropriate for punishment.

Enforcement of the rules is what will solve this problem.