my video of the apex barrel and reveiw

[Lohman446]

Interesting point. But in my mind it would still be put to better use clearing out a Castle at someplace like... oh say... EMR?

Oh yeh, better without a doubt, but I'm worried about its use in speedball. Its use in scenario, well depends on scenario format and rules. I spent awhile yesterday practicing three on two hurry-up drills yesterday.... I can tell you that this would have been handy for those to pick out one of the last two backplayers.

I respect the function of the barrel, the build, the quality. It does what it says it will. Still don't like the idea of seeing it on a speedball course.

[Maggot6]

I agree with Lohman. If I saw someone with this barrel, and ramping I think I'd be forced to slap them.

[dolphin1823]

I find it funny when some of us state how we don't like ramping guns and feel they are ruining the sport we are told "paintball as evloved" and "deal with it". Are these the same players who are saying they don't want this barrel in tourny play? Why aren't you guys going to deal with it?

[manike]

Try it. :rofl:

That's how I was demonstrating it at EMR, and everyone was amazed by the barrel AND the Promaster.

A very effective demonstration of them both.

[Lohman446]

I find it funny when some of us state how we don't like ramping guns and feel they are ruining the sport we are told "paintball as evloved" and "deal with it". Are these the same players who are saying they don't want this barrel in tourny play? Why aren't you guys going to deal with it?

I don't like ramping either...

[Duzzy]

I don't like ramping either...

Me neither, it makes playing with a pump that much harder...

In all actuallity I don't like it because it requires less control. Now here is my question, if you can shoot people you can't see, how do you keep from overshooting them? Especially if you are ramping at 15 bps...

[nt2004]

I find it funny when some of us state how we don't like ramping guns and feel they are ruining the sport we are told "paintball as evloved" and "deal with it". Are these the same players who are saying they don't want this barrel in tourny play? Why aren't you guys going to deal with it?

Ramping lets you shoot fast, and it doesnt guarantee you hit anyone. If you put 15bps on a bunker (just the bunker, while the person is in it), all thats going to happen is you'll waste paint and the bunker will be a bit slimy. Now if you know how to use this barrel, you could eliminate the person who is completely concealed. It kind of kills the whole angle-playing strategy behind speedball. When you can hang back in the back and shoot concealed players without moving, it kills the whole speedball concept.

[doc_Zox]

if things go well in the shop tomorrow,
i hope to have an apex running on my doorbuster phantom:

[SpitFire1299]

Honestly.. it is not something i would be looking to get. It "seems" very inconsistant and inaccurate. Im not going to assume anything or talk bad about it until i try it though.

For now ill keep my 7in barrel.

[doc_Zox]

very inconsistant and inaccurate

whats the MOA of a tuned marker?

from the looks of the system you can go from no influence to warp

if i get a round tuit, i will try to shoot a video of engaging a bedsheet at 50 feet
Boomstick vs Apex

[Faddy]

The Apex Barrel is just a gimmick. I love the part of the video where he's talking about the "flatline" effect. It's awesome that a paintball gun can make a pattern less than 6 feet in diameter at 80ft. :P

This reminds me of when Tippmann released the original flatline barrel. They hyped it up saying it was the best thing to come to paintball. Now the only people you see using them are paintball "snipers" who think that flat trajectory = accuracy. BT is undoubtedly going to make big bucks off this thing, but within a couple years it will be touted as just another gimmick that somehow magically makes you a better player.

Especially in speedball, accuracy and speed is the key. When you can't hit the broadside of a barn, or have to fiddle with settings in the middle of the game in order to hit someone...well that's when you lose.

I do have a question for anybody who has one, but will messing with the settings change the velocity of the shot? Specifically the ramp switch. I'm only asking because if it does, I have a feeling it won't be legal at certain venues, just like the katana barrel and poison arrow barrel system.

[Lohman446]

I asked that question about velocity and yes it is possible to change velocity without tools (engaging the effect lowers velocity, you can safely chrono with it "off"). This makes it technically illegal in tournaments under most major (NPPL / PSP) rules.

[manike]

Putting full spin on can drop the velocity by 10-15fps.

It's easy to tell if the spin is adjusted to be on or off.

[Pickle]

neat as it is... i think it has no place in the game. i don't think any sport should have a $120.00 equalizer on the field..

Well that is about ignorant. But a $1200 high end gun (i.e. "equalizer") is okay? Everyone should now be limited to $500 set ups. Don't want anyone to have an advantage now. Come on guys. Lighten up and let the product speak for itself through sales, popularity, reviews and staying power.

[maglover728]

Thank you for taking the time to review new products and make video for us.