what kind of gun's speed is an emag compaired to

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  • TheTramp
    Registered User
    • Jan 2001
    • 4019

    #16
    Originally posted by Duzzy
    Ah, Z-man's rapid fire stuff... I get ya. Out of curiousity were you using a scooba? That makes much more sense because my other comment would have been you can't pull the trigger 31 bps..
    He was running it directly off a SCUBA tank at several thousand PSI I believe.


    On the PBNation post someone says with the Predator board you won't have to worry about a cap. Maybe not, but I wouldn't set any settings higher than 22 bps if you do. An E-mag going 30 bps might look cool for a little while, but I think it would be an expensive mistake.
    As far as I know the E-Mag Pred board will pretty much has the same code as all the other versions so no 20bps cap. As you say, I sure wouldn't want to replace my noid just to show that my E-Mag will shoot 30bps.
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    • Magz_rule
      Magz = the best
      • Feb 2004
      • 553

      #17
      Originally posted by Maggot6
      Well, I know the mag can't go over 22 ish electronically, but in mech it can. THat is what I was referring to.
      The topic was referring to an Emag, Not a mech mag.

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      • Duzzy
        Mentally confused, wanders

        • Apr 2004
        • 940

        #18
        And said E-Mag also has a mech mode on it... So it fits in with the topic perfectly, even if it isn't really relevant to normal play.

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        • matwizard08
          I need a tank cover
          • May 2004
          • 443

          #19
          ok guys

          Ok I propose another question. If i were to buy a predator board with all the nifty programs. Would I be able to keep up with anything out there? These boards will bring a hole new word to EMAG. This board lets you install eyes and lets you ramp and do all the other amazing things. Would this make my gun any better? Would it be able to be capiable with the noid? I have this board ordered already so i would like to know would it be better than a Angel Speed? Would It be good as a 05 timmy,shocker,nerve and all that other junk or am i just wasting my time with Emag?



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          • Duzzy
            Mentally confused, wanders

            • Apr 2004
            • 940

            #20
            If you want a "cool" gun then buy something else. Personally, I like the feel of my X-mag. It just feels good.

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            • mag88888
              ULE MAG
              • Oct 2004
              • 983

              #21
              who cares about how fast we can make a mag go illegally. were comparing an e-mag in semi to other guns also in semi. its not like we can walk around on the field with our mags hooked up to scuba tanks shooting 25-30 bps. although that could be pretty fun...
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              • matwizard08
                I need a tank cover
                • May 2004
                • 443

                #22
                This boARD

                This board is fully leagl in every tournament. Aftershock uses them on there dm5's and i dont relly plan on walking around with a scuba tank lol but that would be awsome.
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                • yakitori

                  #23
                  the RT valve or xvalve can only recharge that fast at high input pressures. The valve is rated at 3000 psi. Running that much air through something, no wonder it recharges so fast. Not really all that much to brag about. W/ preset input it likely wont recharge past the advertised 26bps.

                  An emag is in no comparison to a viking in terms of speed. Esp if you are talking e mode. i would compare the emag more to the Ion in terms of speed and trigger. They are both magnetic triggers, the Ion is only capped at 17bps, so w/ that software, thats the closest comparison.

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                  • matwizard08
                    I need a tank cover
                    • May 2004
                    • 443

                    #24
                    finaly an answer

                    thank you yakitori dinaly an answer I was looking for! It shoots alot like an ion speed and trigger wise thats not 2 bad. with the predator board i can get a he*l of alot faster.
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                    • Army
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                      • Oct 2000
                      • 5785

                      #25
                      Originally posted by yakitori
                      the RT valve or xvalve can only recharge that fast at high input pressures. The valve is rated at 3000 psi. Running that much air through something, no wonder it recharges so fast. Not really all that much to brag about. W/ preset input it likely wont recharge past the advertised 26bps.

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                      Nope. Regardless of input pressure, the A.I.R. valve will reduce that to 350-450psi, and still hit the ball with around 60psi.

                      The RT valve fully recharges regardless of tank output.

                      The originally tested 26 CYCLES per second in 1996 was not the valve limit, but only as fast as the computer could go. Later testing showed well over 32 BALLS per second with no measurable shootdown.

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                      • FSU_Paintball
                        (well, not any longer)
                        • Aug 2002
                        • 618

                        #26
                        There's a lot of technical stuff floating around in this thread, but here's the skinny:

                        In practical use, you'll probably find it slower than most electros these days.
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                        • warbeak2099
                          That is my foot!
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 4447

                          #27
                          I don't know how you come to that conclusion. An electro is an electro. The only thing that would make one electro faster than another would be the board, the switch, or the gun's ability to cycle fast enough. Let's take a look here. The emag can cycle past 26bps w/o shootdown, that's been proven. The 3.2 board is capped at 20bps, no one can pull that in semi. The HES sensor in place of a microswitch has got to be the lightest pull I've ever felt. I would compare it to the eblades I've shot, but it can compete with most any electro out there. The only thing it doesn't have is ramping and the predator board fixes that.
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                          • TheTramp
                            Registered User
                            • Jan 2001
                            • 4019

                            #28
                            You've hit the nail on the head.

                            A lot of the E-Mag's speed possibilities have to do with how you've set the trigger up. It's a bit of an art to get it to get it short, soft, and with a good return.

                            I'd put an E-Mag with at least the 3.5 and a "professionally" set-up trigger up against any other gun so long as that gun had a reasonable debounce setting.
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                            • FSU_Paintball
                              (well, not any longer)
                              • Aug 2002
                              • 618

                              #29
                              Yes but, chances are he's not going to have a "professionally" set up trigger, and the mag has 1.32 software. So it's slower than most guns right now.
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                              • yakitori

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Army
                                Nope. Regardless of input pressure, the A.I.R. valve will reduce that to 350-450psi, and still hit the ball with around 60psi.

                                The RT valve fully recharges regardless of tank output.

                                The originally tested 26 CYCLES per second in 1996 was not the valve limit, but only as fast as the computer could go. Later testing showed well over 32 BALLS per second with no measurable shootdown.

                                I know what the air valve reduces to, and I didnt even say anything about how much pressure is dumped on a ball. Im saying that it wont recharge to the 32+bps you are claiming w/out a high input pressure.

                                I know the RT valve fully recharges, but still I dont believe it will cycle at 34bps or so w/o a higher input pressure.

                                and let me ask, how do you know there was no shootdown? Its pretty damn hard to measure velocity of each ball when shooting 32bps.

                                Its still comparable to an Ion in E MODE......just like I said. W/ that software. Even 3.2 is capped at 20, big difference....wow....3bps. You wont be getting 32+bps w/o cranking up the input pressure and sweetspotting, bouncing, or rapid firing....whatever ya wanna call it.

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