If Smart Parts went public, would you buy its stock?

[Target Practice]

no, but thats because i dont use any of their products. id purchase in dye if i had one to wager on

Who cares?

You're damn right I would. Whether it be DYE, SP, or any other one (except for FreeFlow, of course )

Let's look at a few of my portfolio:

Catepillar--Don't own a D8, but I own stock.
Northrop-Grumman--Don't own a B-2, but I own stock.
Disney--Don't like their movies or programing, but they make me money.
Microsoft--let's not even go there.

Do I care if they crowd out the market, and shut everyone else down? Not especially. Do I care that they're "ruining" paintball? Nope. If they went public, I'd buy shares, especially if they once and for all beat the rap on this whole lawsuit thing.

Smart Parts is a business. You're going to fault them for making money?

[RRfireblade]

Does NPS have a market/distribute in europe?

Yes.

[Lohman446]

Not a chance - with the exception of K2 and whatever major group bought out Tippman noone in paintball represents to me a large enough company to not be diversified and none of them appear to be diversified enough to be a good investment. Couple that with my beleif that violation of ASTM standards (and likely without it) is going to add up to a sizeable (at least to a smaller company, which any of these are) jury award when someone is ineveitably seriously hurt. Couple this with a slow down of growth in the industry, an oversaturation of the market, and I don't see a good risk to return ratio in paitnball..

[mobsterboy]

not flaming here, but its ppl like you who undermine the whole idea of stocks being high profile and strategical. Sure, its easy to say now that SP is a good company to invest in, but it would have been a gamble to do so earlier, and sure, they did sell quite a few shockers and impulses, but if it hadnt been for the ion, SP would have been down the toilet. Sure they have freaks, but what company doesnt have a barrel kit of some sort?

It takes more than looking at a good company, it takes planning the right time to buy or sell

[Carbon]

Ok, now consider what a 10 year inevestment might look like, that is if you held on to the stock for say 10 years, Would buy any paintball stock at all?

[mobsterboy]

no for the 10 year stuff

In NYSE terms, the stock would Plateau and then continue to go down to its own demise. just think, in the last year alone, ramping is legal, new boards have come out and all the tourneys are just based on how fast you can run to your bunker and how quickly you can reload, also how many pods you carry.


Just to not confuse anyone, Im 16 and a Senior in high school, and the sudden knowledge spurt is me finally having time to say something about investments, and someone bringing it up. All this was not something I got from a "stock page", and since I am going to major in business, this kind of stuff is really interesting to me

[Carbon]

yeah i make pretty awesome threads!



Also a little OT.

with the increase of gas rices, what Hybrid car technologies should one look at? Who makes the batteries for those cars anayway. Im willing to bet there is some OEM manufacture for those that sells to most of the car companies.

[warbeak2099]

You're 16 and you're a senior? Wow, accelerated or something?

If anything I'd invest in the paint manufactorers. They're pretty stable compared to the other equipment manufactorers!

[latches109]

Not a chance - with the exception of K2 and whatever major group bought out Tippman noone in paintball represents to me a large enough company to not be diversified and none of them appear to be diversified enough to be a good investment. Couple that with my beleif that violation of ASTM standards (and likely without it) is going to add up to a sizeable (at least to a smaller company, which any of these are) jury award when someone is ineveitably seriously hurt. Couple this with a slow down of growth in the industry, an oversaturation of the market, and I don't see a good risk to return ratio in paitnball..

[bleachit]

Wal*Mart stock seems to be a safer stock to go with (I know, I used to own quite a bit of it when I worked there).

meh, walmart stock has been going down for a while... still up there, just not at its strongest.

[Carbon]

good stuff latches good stuff.

I suppose your right, paint companies if not, encapsulation machine manufactures would be an interesting avenue to explore.

[slade]

I'd purchase an ion and throw it through their front office window with a used condom over the barrel.

so youd pay the gardner bros $270 to be able to physically and sexually assault them?


on topic: id go with what others have said, itd be a better choice to invest in DYE or NPS.

[Lohman446]

I'm going to leave yur steady earnings alone, because I have not seen the information to support it and I doubt anyone else has.

As to bad manufacturing being the cause of the harm I would argue in regards to ASTM standards willful disregard of them is bad manufacturing, and not a flaw a blatant disregard for safety. I am in the camp of not if, but when and to whom on the lawsuit.

A company cannot be sitting in a single leasure activity without diversification and have truly safe returns, at least not of the small size of SP / Dye / National.

Growth in the paintball market from here on out is questionable - the market is not rapidly expanding as it was when SP was making good profits (assumed). As such the growth of the company into the future I beleive is questionable. I guess it would depend on how I was looking at the stock - as a income yielding investment through dividends or a growth investment. SP may have hypothetical good dividends in the next year as I do nto see much capital spent on further expansion, but I do not see it as a viable growth stock.

Obviously these are all hypotheticals, with very very limited knowledge.

[Cameo]

meh, walmart stock has been going down for a while... still up there, just not at its strongest.

It is going down?? that seems odd to me, being that I have not been to one for quite some time (march to be exact) to check out the stock percentage in the back of the store.. But my fathers company share check came not to long ago. He had mentioned how it was the biggest one that he has recieved thus far. Note: he is/has been a night manager since 2001.

[bleachit]

been working there since 2000, its at one of its lower points since Ive been there, last I checked it was around $47 a share, I believe.