Originally posted by CoolHand
Oh no, don't misunderstand me, I'm all for it. You just have to do it like TAG did their DIY kits. They have a concrete warranty (IE once it leaves the concrete of TAG's shop floor, there is no warranty, no support, discuss it amongst yourselves and figure it out).
That's the only way you can support a product of that nature in today's PB culture. To do otherwise is to invite gray hair.
People ***** about the ION not having this or that or whatever, but I think that is exactly what people like about it. That's what they liked about the Impulse, that's what they liked about the Autococker, and that's what they like about the Ion.
Its a cheap blank canvas (which you can still play with out of the box, can't forget that part of it) that you can literally make into whatever you want it to be. Everyone wants to be unique. In a sea of people, everyone wants to be the only one with the things they have. I think this is the founding push behind gun whoring, regardless of what the stated reasoning is. They have a marker, but as soon as it becomes kinda common place, its gotta go, for something you don't see that often. How many people do you see advertising a 1 of X marker?
With an Ion, the thing is cheap enough to get and piece together how ever you want. To do the same with a Mag, will cost you three times as much.
What I think AGD needs to do is to take a page from SP's play book, and do a super cheap Mag platform to customize off of. Think about it, there is a lot of potential there.
Do away with the integrated reg (with a little fore thought, you can make it ready for a gas thru rail too). Ship it with a bare bones vert reg (everyone wants to be able to change them anyway, let them). Ship it with a plastic [b]double trigger[b] frame. Send along a crappy barrel that will at least put balls out the end. Most important of all, make it cheap (to start with).
Then start in with your aftermarket parts. Make a gas-thru rail (its easy, have Tom give me a call and I'll sketch it out for him
). Make a variety of frames and triggers (oh so many triggers, and at least as many frames as we have now). Sell a couple of feed tube options. Use your imagination. If they can make it for an Ion, you can make it for a Mag.
Of course, this will require a near 180 swing in the thinking over at AGD, which is likely not what they want, but you never know. Of course, since its not my company, I really don't have any right to ride them about what they are doing right or wrong.
I'm just tossing out an idea that, given the cash to realize it, I would have already been acting on.
That's the only way you can support a product of that nature in today's PB culture. To do otherwise is to invite gray hair.
People ***** about the ION not having this or that or whatever, but I think that is exactly what people like about it. That's what they liked about the Impulse, that's what they liked about the Autococker, and that's what they like about the Ion.
Its a cheap blank canvas (which you can still play with out of the box, can't forget that part of it) that you can literally make into whatever you want it to be. Everyone wants to be unique. In a sea of people, everyone wants to be the only one with the things they have. I think this is the founding push behind gun whoring, regardless of what the stated reasoning is. They have a marker, but as soon as it becomes kinda common place, its gotta go, for something you don't see that often. How many people do you see advertising a 1 of X marker?
With an Ion, the thing is cheap enough to get and piece together how ever you want. To do the same with a Mag, will cost you three times as much.
What I think AGD needs to do is to take a page from SP's play book, and do a super cheap Mag platform to customize off of. Think about it, there is a lot of potential there.
Do away with the integrated reg (with a little fore thought, you can make it ready for a gas thru rail too). Ship it with a bare bones vert reg (everyone wants to be able to change them anyway, let them). Ship it with a plastic [b]double trigger[b] frame. Send along a crappy barrel that will at least put balls out the end. Most important of all, make it cheap (to start with).
Then start in with your aftermarket parts. Make a gas-thru rail (its easy, have Tom give me a call and I'll sketch it out for him
). Make a variety of frames and triggers (oh so many triggers, and at least as many frames as we have now). Sell a couple of feed tube options. Use your imagination. If they can make it for an Ion, you can make it for a Mag.Of course, this will require a near 180 swing in the thinking over at AGD, which is likely not what they want, but you never know. Of course, since its not my company, I really don't have any right to ride them about what they are doing right or wrong.
I'm just tossing out an idea that, given the cash to realize it, I would have already been acting on.
You know what would be really funny... is if Ion bodies fit on a Mag... and if you could convert it into a dead ringer. SP would just love that!
If you look at many other markers... their design is dictated by how it mechanically operates. I think the XValve is immune to this to an extent.
Can you take the guts out of an Angel... Shocker... etc. like you can a Mag? Take off the thumb screw... pull out the valve... there's your guts right there. With this in mind... I think that the Mag has very high, untapped cosmetic potential. You can make the body look however you'd like, without having to worry about how the marker operates.
The kiddies can have a "new gun" or flavor of the week without the expense of having to rebuy the whole marker. Most other markers... you want a new look? Gotta buy the whole thing again. That's one of the appeals of the Ion.
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