How much can we really improve now?

[nippinout]

I don't think lighter equipment is going to improve anybody's game. I don't think even 1% of us actually train to play paintball, other than dumping cases of paint at the range.

What makes me want to get new snowboard or paintball equipment? They make the stuff look badass every year. It's all about aesthetics at this point.

[tae]

I am dumb so take w/ lot o salt

Theres to much to read right now, so i dont know if this was said or not. I have alway though that hoppers are some sort of archaic complication that people have stuck with thinking there is no better way. There has been some growth in the loading tech, but I plan to make a hopper outa PVC or some damn thing (nuts to weight, me strong like bull!) to make less obstructive hopper. That feature alone has kept so many people I know away form the game. I have seen clip loading markers popping up because of the popularity of scenario games. So, if you ask me, there definitely will be a combination of smaller, more efficient and effective guns. Its really about what the players will demand from the sport as it grows. Smaller paintballs that are more accurate. Markers that arnt bigger than your head. I dont know. I want to see a paint chaingun. That would be nifty

like this

[scrumpy]

Where is paintball going? I'm not sure but that raises another interesting question - where is the human race going. We're coming to the end of the information age - what's next?
Discuss

[hardr0ck68]

This is a quote from Tom in responce to a symilar thread....i would love to see a marker like this:


Well if everyone were to suddenly give up their preconcieved notions of what is good and bad about a paintgun then this is what we could do NOW.

Run guns at much HIGHER pressures so you could make all the internal components smaller and more compact. This would lead to overall smaller guns with better efficiency.

Better efficiency means smaller tanks making the guns lighter and smaller overall.

Built in crono's that maintain your velocity at exactly what you set it to even when your tank starts running below your working pressure. This would mean that even though you we shooting a "high pressure" marker you would use it to the bottom of the tank. In order to do this you would have to have a fixed barrel but since everyone has to waist money on replacable barrels this thinking would have to change.

Trigger systems that would accomodate ALL of your fingers for "4 finger walking" pushing the fire power into the 30 BPS range.

Pre-load bolt systems that chamber the next round while you are firing the first elliminating ball feed lag.

Pressure feeding loaders that feed balls from anywhere into your flamethrower. OOPS we already have that, Warp Feeds....

Electronically timed millisecond on/off valves that would completely eliminate regulators. Lets see, we can take off the tank reg, then the vert reg and oh yea the LPR too. You would have to be ready to put all those manufacturers out of business.

Very high speed two shot bursts where the 2nd ball would draft close behind the first ball for greater accuracy. The first ball would disrupt the air column and leave behind a turbulent wake. The turbulence would disrupt the laminar flow that leads to vortex shedding on the 2nd ball. Disrupt the vortex and improve the accuracy.

No real gun with any state of the art firepower shoots from a clip. Clips are so 1900's. Real guns in all the worlds militaries use a belt feed from a huge magazine. We still love our cute little pods and hoppers and fashion matched pod belts so we look good when we are posing on the field. Maybe someday we will get with the program and use a backpack that could shoot a case of paint non stop. Oh yea, we have that right now too but no one wants it.

And last but not lease an electronically timed, high pressure marker without regulators could plug into a laptop, test itself and tell you exactly what's wrong with it.

This is just one possible reality, most likely not to be part of any of your futures. Have fun with your pods.

AGD

[tae]

I completely agree with you Hardrock. The improvements will all be aimed at raising ammo cap., accuracy, fire rate, distance, size, weight, umm...spiff factor. Thats exactly what the military wants. East, effective firepower. But having a gun thats as close to a Death Star is going to put a different edge on the game. I realize that the point of this thread is to discuss what the technical improvements the sport can have in the future. So my point is that I am very new to all this, and I know that I dont know what Im talking about. But dose anyone agree that hoppers are for the Flintstones?

As for the chambering idea. Could someone tell me why the bolt fires into the ball. It seems that pressure would do all the work but is there some sort of stabilizing going on?

If the questions silly I apologize

[zorrotmm]

I completely agree with you Hardrock. The improvements will all be aimed at raising ammo cap., accuracy, fire rate, distance, size, weight, umm...spiff factor. Thats exactly what the military wants. East, effective firepower. But having a gun thats as close to a Death Star is going to put a different edge on the game. I realize that the point of this thread is to discuss what the technical improvements the sport can have in the future. So my point is that I am very new to all this, and I know that I dont know what Im talking about. But dose anyone agree that hoppers are for the Flintstones?

As for the chambering idea. Could someone tell me why the bolt fires into the ball. It seems that pressure would do all the work but is there some sort of stabilizing going on?

If the questions silly I apologize

Actually, it's not silly. I've often wondered why someone hasn't come out with a design that doesn't include a bolt. But then I found out someone DID. Just saw this the other day. If I ever have 400 bucks I don't know what to do with I'm going to buy one of these just to see how they shoot:

Epic

[codeman35]

I just bought a naughty dog freestyle fs-7. All this talk about new guns and loaders and stuff is scaring me. I hope i didn't just waist my money.

[Will Wood]

You did *NOT* just spell waste, waist, did you?
*Bangs head on desk*

[hardr0ck68]

so since you asked if you "waist"ed your money, may i ask, because i truly dont know; what makes a naughty dogs freestyle better than a factory freestyle? I know thay cost more, and look different, but is that it?

BTW my last post was a quote from Tom Kaye on an older thread....same topic tho.

[tae]

Yeah I reread what I did and that dose seem to confuse things. But Mr. ADG and you are right. There is the technology but no one will build it. I finally say a hopper that gives me hope

http://www.specialopspaintball.com/articles/specops_longbow.asp

I want to know if I can fit it on me 68. Argh!

[AKBAR]

You did *NOT* just spell waste, waist, did you?
*Bangs head on desk*

LoL. Speaking of the future of humanity...

[phantomhitman]

OMGWTFBBQ!!1TWO!


/DMC?

dmc uses titanium, but i do not know about carbon fiber.

I believe in the next 10 years the game will change again. There will be a new format that does of 2 things
1-mixes woods-tourney together somehow. Problem is that woods is too long while tourney is too fast. You could have a short time limit to complete some scenario event or just setup a tourney type game on a scenario field.
2-uses the current tourney scene layout but changes the rules considerably.



People will get bored playing the same game over and over, something has to change. The refs definatly need to be upgraded (I understand they do the best they can, but it can be way better) and need be a seperate entity altogether. There needs to be some sort of instant replay to stop the ignorant run thrus now, where a coach could throw a flag (like the nfl uses now) and the refs would take a look at the replay and hand out penaltys. There would only be 2-3 times you can use the flag though just like the nfl. It owuld help stop some people from cheating but not overkill. Xball will hopefully continue to have a great future, I love to watch it now.

[TheTramp]

When this tech is perfected there'll be some changes:

http://www.nationalpaintball.com/pdfs/pressreleases/eVolt.pdf

[FSU_Paintball]

so since you asked if you "waist"ed your money, may i ask, because i truly dont know; what makes a naughty dogs freestyle better than a factory freestyle? I know thay cost more, and look different, but is that it?

First off, I'm only referring to the FS7 because that's what you should buy... ignore older freestyles unless you are trying to save a lot of money.

Milling and a NOX board. That's the difference. If you buy it direct from Rocky I think he also includes a clamping feed neck and a CP barrel. Aside from that they are the same.

And I think eVolt technology will change things.

[hardr0ck68]

so does that naughty dogs fs7 lmnop freestyle help you? are you a better player now? has Rocky called you and asked you to step on for one of the 'dogs?

or did you just waist your money on a gun of the moment?