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  • Pouget
    Registered User
    • Oct 2005
    • 26

    #1

    X-Mag

    I've been reading about the X-Mags and I'm VERY interested. I also saw somewhere that they aren't made anymore? Whats the deal and why?

    Also, if I want one where should I get one?

    And the E-mag I always see E-mag/X-mag I'm guessing that there the same or somethign what does this mean?? It seems like on airgun.com there just as much as an x mag.
  • Creative Mayhem
    AO's OFFICIAL CANUCK
    • Apr 2002
    • 3633

    #2
    Try the search button, there is a huge amount of info on this subject that you could access easily.

    To answer your questions, yes the xmag is no longer in production due to the complications and expense to mill the bodies and maintain the high QC that AGD is known for. Not easy when dealing with an overseas company. Then there's the whole smart parts thing...

    As for where you can get one, more than likely it will be used, so try the buy and sell forums here on AO, or EBay, you never know, you may luck out and get one cheap.

    Now, for the E/Xmag question, they are virtually the same. The main differences are:

    - xmag has a integrated body and rail

    - ACE, Anti Chop Eye

    - Lighter than a stock SS Emag

    - Interchangable breeches for warpfeed users

    Hope this answers your questions..



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    • AGDlover
      And boom goes the dynamite
      • Aug 2003
      • 3322

      #3
      Yes Xmags were stoped productions due to low sales and due to high expences in shipping them from AGDE over seas. If you want to pick one up you can get em used on the FS Marker forums on here. Some of the differances in a emag and a Xmag are:

      Xmag has a "Uni Rail/Body" with interchangeable breach alowing you to Run a vert feed or Warp feed breach
      Xmags also use ACE(Anti Chop eye)
      Xmags are fairly lighter than Emags
      Xmag bodys were machined overseas


      Thats the main differances Hope that helped you out atleast a little.
      Euro E-mag | TL63 | XMOD| EM01610
      Euro Rt | OG | RT02382.

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      • Pouget
        Registered User
        • Oct 2005
        • 26

        #4
        Yes that helps me out a little. So I mise well just stop worrying about an X-mag and go with the e-mag?

        Also, the ACE is like using a grenade on an ant hill. I mean you already have the lvl 10 which is sufficient enough right?

        Stupid questions...What is "drop off" and "bounce" I see these all the time and not sure what they mean.

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        • Creative Mayhem
          AO's OFFICIAL CANUCK
          • Apr 2002
          • 3633

          #5
          Originally posted by AGDlover
          Yes Xmags were stoped productions due to low sales and due to high expences in shipping them from AGDE over seas. If you want to pick one up you can get em used on the FS Marker forums on here. Some of the differances in a emag and a Xmag are:

          Xmag has a "Uni Rail/Body" with interchangeable breach alowing you to Run a vert feed or Warp feed breach
          Xmags also use ACE(Anti Chop eye)
          Xmags are fairly lighter than Emags
          Xmag bodys were machined overseas


          Thats the main differances Hope that helped you out atleast a little.
          Too slow rookie



          Owner:Purple People Eater - AFTICA XMAG
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          • Pouget
            Registered User
            • Oct 2005
            • 26

            #6
            Yes that helps me out a little. So I mise well just stop worrying about an X-mag and go with the e-mag?

            Also, the ACE is like using a grenade on an ant hill. I mean you already have the lvl 10 which is sufficient enough right?

            Stupid questions...What is "drop off" and "bounce" I see these all the time and not sure what they mean.

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            • WenULiVeUdiE
              Force of Nature Staff
              • Jan 2004
              • 1982

              #7
              Originally posted by Pouget
              Yes that helps me out a little. So I mise well just stop worrying about an X-mag and go with the e-mag?

              Also, the ACE is like using a grenade on an ant hill. I mean you already have the lvl 10 which is sufficient enough right?

              Stupid questions...What is "drop off" and "bounce" I see these all the time and not sure what they mean.
              Drop off occurs during rapid-fire. Regualtors are not able to recharge fast enough, so they put out a lower pressure, which results in a lower velocity. However, this does not occur in 'Mags. X-valve's actually get the opposite. Dring rapid-fire, the velocity will actually increase due to the design of the valve system. This is the reason for the RT Chrono procedure.

              Bounce is a term which describes the sensitivity of the trigger. There are two types of bounce, electrical and mechanical. Electrical bounce occurs when the tolerance of switch "noise" is too high. Thus, the marker "thinks" the trigger was pulled. Mechanical bounce is when the trigger actually activates the markers due to the recoil.

              If you do not care about the name and just want the performance, the E-mag will suit you just fine.

              There has been a long term debate on ACE vs. Level 10. Level 10 hurts efficiency slightly, however paint color does not effect it. ACE is easier to set up and it does not effect efficiency what so ever.


              -Andrew
              Hey, look at that! It's Santa!

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              • 11 Bravo
                Predatored Karta Mag
                • May 2005
                • 1247

                #8
                Just one correction: The ule Emag is lighter than the Xmag.

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                • BobTheCow
                  IAO Gold Star winner (BTK)
                  • Dec 2002
                  • 3832

                  #9
                  Originally posted by 11 Bravo
                  Just one correction: The ule Emag is lighter than the Xmag.
                  Yeah but the x has all that extra SEXY weighing it down.
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                  • zackzel

                    #10
                    Yes the X-mags are very sexy, and if you are interested I have a one of a kind X.

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                    • AGDlover
                      And boom goes the dynamite
                      • Aug 2003
                      • 3322

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Creative Mayhem
                      Too slow rookie

                      One day I'll say that to you
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                      Euro Rt | OG | RT02382.

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                      • Pouget
                        Registered User
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 26

                        #12
                        Wow I have 900 dollars to spend I would buy that A.S.A.P. That gun is hot. I hope there still around when I get a real gun.

                        As for the ULE Custom RT what would be a good setup to get with this? What kind of upgrades are there? Is this gun light and fires fast?

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                        • JoshK
                          Je mange du poulet. mmmmm
                          • Mar 2004
                          • 2666

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Pouget
                          Wow I have 900 dollars to spend I would buy that A.S.A.P. That gun is hot. I hope there still around when I get a real gun.

                          As for the ULE Custom RT what would be a good setup to get with this? What kind of upgrades are there? Is this gun light and fires fast?
                          A HPA system is needed with all mags. There are all sorts of aftermarket rails, bodies, front grips, frames, and barrels to customize your mag with.

                          ULE mags are plenty light. I've never owned the X-valves though so they are even lighter than the mags that I've owned. You can sweet spot them, and some people are able to walk theirs with ULT installed, but mostly they are as quick as most other mechanical guns.

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                          • Pouget
                            Registered User
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 26

                            #14
                            Is HPA a Nitrogen tank? And is the x-valve a whole different gun? I though it comes with the Custom RT?...

                            Also, are these guns quiet when shooting?

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                            • JoshK
                              Je mange du poulet. mmmmm
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 2666

                              #15
                              HPA = High Pressure Air

                              And yes...those can be filled with nitrgen, although they are commonly filled with air(the stuff we breath), or oxygen.

                              And the x-valve is exactly that. A valve. It is part of the gun. And you are correct...they come on ULE RTs.


                              Never heard one shoot stock, but their stock barrels (J&J?) are said to be nice.

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